The oddest experience I've had yet. - entities HERE

[TurbatusAnimus]

Let me rewind slightly first:

A couple weeks back I introduced my girlfriend to DMT.
She took a good little hit, didn't get much, took another bigger hit and well - lights out. She looked like she was sleeping. When her experience was over, she kept going on about a "girls face" that "kept trying to appear in the patterns."

A few days ago:
I took 2 big rips and went to a very ... "crystalline ?" place, I can't explain. I was trying to ask the visions what they were (don't ask) and well see I saw them squish kinda. Like all of the patterns/energy just got squished. It's like there was me, the energy in front of me confined into the thickness of your average wall, and on the other side was a little girl and someone else .. HUMAN form, not the normal entities I see. It's like she was pushing on me somehow ... It felt so real, so strange. I had my own interpretation at the time but I think I was wrong now so I won't even mention it. By the way, I COMPLETELY forgot about seeing the girl until TODAY.

Today:

3am, couldn't sleep ... "What to do?" well ...
I got a sudden urge to visit hyperspace.

I packed about 25mg into a tinfoil bowl.
I heated it from underneath and slowly inhaled.
I'm fairly certain I cleared it and I held it as long as I could.
After exhaling a pretty damn big cloud I shut out the lights and sat on my bed, legs crossed. I sat here for probably like 30 seconds thinking "Is this working? I think I did too little ... but damn that hit was big."

I closed my eyes and tried to tune into it so to say and well, it worked. All of the sudden I got complex patterns, blah blah blah and whoa wait! Suddenly it got super intense like, I lost my train of thought and almost my consciousness. Things started buzzing in 3 frequencies and kept doing so for most of the ride.

When I regained somewhat of a thought process I realized I was performing really weird motions with my arms and hands. BUT I WAS NOT CONSCIOUSLY DOING SO. They were so fluid and seemed to make a lot of sense.

Now, chakras are something I've always debated - real or not ... I still don't know but at one point my hands came together after making some odd gestures (kinda like Tai-Chi style movements) and the ran [help flat together, fingers facing up] from the top of my head down to right below my belly. I felt all of these "things" start to open/glow ... I could see them to an extent too and could feel them causing pressure in my actual physical body. They would appear to have been chakras ... Then the visions told me that they were always here. That what we see is actually just part of space. Always here but so sporadic that without the right focus it makes no sense. Focus is important because it's a higher dimension and our minds already can hardly comprehend that.

Okay so my arms and hands are still moving and the visions go from random patterns to solid things like weird little fairies (not ALIVE though, just IMAGES) but then at one point they cleared away and well ... I saw that girl AGAIN. The place she was in was very much "physical" feeling and she looking like a normal human girl, brown hair & all ... And definitely the same one I saw before.

At this point I got distracted by my arms still moving so I just forced them to stop and then asked myself how I knew to perform the movements to be able to manipulate the imagery and actually turn it into something seemingly solid or to be able to tune into that girl again. Suddenly I could see the hands and arms on mine, guiding my movement. The fingers were rather pale, almost a light olive .. The fingernails were black. This thing was sitting behind me physically moving my harms, hands, fingers, all so fluidly. Once I realized this I opened my eyes just to see 3 other entities in the room that I couldn't see with my eyes closed... They were dark. See, NONE OF THESE ENTITIES WERE COLORFUL. The 3 that were dark in appearance felt dark too, evil. I could feel a pressure surrounding me, it scared me a bit to be honest so I thought "who are you" and well my arms and hands ... They signed "who", "are" and "you" with the help of the "thing" behind me. Before they could respond though I focused as hard as I could to push away the feeling of pressure. The being behind me form my arms into this odd triangle, with my fingers forming another triangle. With this pose I was able to exert my own pressure against theirs. Then I told them to respect me... AND THEN LOL I apologized for doing so thinking I had jumped the gun, presuming they were evil.

Here's the thing ... They were ... I could feel it.
The thing behind me felt neutral.
The girl felt innocent and somehow tied to the 3 dark beings.

I cannot get over seeing this girl multiple times and the fact that in this particular experience I was moving without telling my limbs to do so. Those three entities seem like they hang around me more than I know. The one behind be seems like they were trying to teach me a little about the DMT space. How to manipulate it and how to deal with bad spirits ?? It was so REAL, they looked so REAL, no colors/patterns just beings. The girl too she just amazes me it's like she wants to show me something but these things are keeping her at bay.

I'm so incredibly tired I'ma cut this here.
This does no true justice to the experience.

Goodnight all.

 

[Soy sauce]

Your experience... sounds extremly amazing!

My first trip, was similar to this one, in the fact that I had my eyes closed, freaking out a little bit, due to it being a first time and all, but, I opened my eyes up, and my hands were moving on their own, just like yours. I was, forming a ball of 'energy' infront of me.
Like, when you're making a snow ball? Just like that. Only.. inside, and, without any snow. For the first few seconds, I could swear on anything, I saw the energy ball. It was actually there. I could feel its' pulse, buzzing through my hands.
Scared the shit out of me. In a good way though. :d

But.. you actually seeing arms, and feeling the presence behind you? That's pretty amazing. Also, from the movements you describe, I can almost see you doing it now.

Strange question, but.. were you sitting against a wall? Or, in a chair with a back to it?
I ask, because in one of my other trips, maybe my second, or third, I had an entity whisper such amazing things into my ear. At the moment she was whispering to me, it wasn't really words, but, it was something, and hearing those sounds, made images appear in my head. Exact images of what she, this entity, were 'speaking' of. I felt this to be true because every time an image popped into my head, I could hear the happiness in her voice. Just like, when you're on the phone with somebody, and you can almost hear when they smile?
And, when this was all happening, I was sort of half sitting, half lying down, with my head against the wall/pillow. There was no room for anything to be behind me, besides the wall, but, I could hear her voice, clear as a bell. Once I opened my eyes, I tried to turn around to see this being, but, that pesky wall was in my way. :lol:

And, what are your views on chakras now? After dealing with all that? If they've even changed at all, that is. Or if it's even more confusing now, due to entities attempting.. to show you yours?; To, use yours against the dark ones?; Or.. whatever it was they were trying to do.

It all, sounds pretty powerful to me. Them attempting to show you new techniques for traversing hyperspace. Or, even for protection, against the dark ones.

 

[TurbatusAnimus]

You mention the snow ball. I didn't really form a solid ball... I didn't have the need to.
At one point I got a very bad vibe from the 3 dark entities and wanted to let them know to respect me and not to try anything bad. The being behind me guided my arms so that I gathered energy and was able to force it out as pressure against their negative pressure that was attempting to crush me. Like I could actually see the energies clashing and mine slowly forcing theirs away from my body. It was just so damn weird, creepy, amazing, confusing, ...........

I was sitting on my bed about 2 feet from the wall. The thing behind me could have had room to sit comfortably but instead it was lined up in a way that it would have melded with my stereo and other items behind me if it had been in the physical world.

As for my views on the chakras... When I enter DMT space and leave, it is always through uncontrollable deep breaths. Almost like I'm waking from a dream, extremely deep yawns. During these breaths I can feel something entering and leaving my lower abdomen .. "Me" ... After actually SEEING them last night and seeing how they connected to the energy (DMT induced visions ?) in the room, I'm very very very inclined to believe they are in fact real.

I can't help but feel the little girl knew the dark entities were well, dark... And like she was trying to warn me because she's dealt with them in the past.

As for the entity behind me, it had a very neutral feeling. It did not want to harm me. It did not want to help me. It wanted me to accept it's lessons on manipulating the space/energy so I could help myself to repel these negative beings. I believe once I enter that space again, I'll fully remember all of the motions that led to lighting up and enabling my chakras fully.

I've never had feelings like I did last night. There was no real confusion afterwards like I usually get. Sitting here this morning, I still feel that whatever I experienced last night actually happened.

I hope I'm wrong though and this is just a drug. I do really hope that now. But I question it ...
If it's not just a drug, then I've got an issue. Those 3 were waiting for me to enter that space and then for me to let my guard down. They wanted me. My body. My life. I do not know why. Their pressure was almost enough to make me give in and if not for the entity guiding me ... It's like they stepped in not to help me but because they needed to stop those beings from entering "me" .. I don't know, I feel like I'm starting to sound crazy here soooo -END

 

[Soy sauce]

The being behind me guided my arms so that I gathered energy and was able to force it out as pressure against their negative pressure that was attempting to crush me. Like I could actually see the energies clashing and mine slowly forcing theirs away from my body.

That sounds pretty intense. Really. Sometimes, I get these waves, or, pulses. I'm not sure, but, usually it's after I've came down from hyperspace, and I'm in the afterglow of it all. It feels as though every, single, cell, in my body is getting hit with the same energy at the same exact time. Sometimes I can almost hold on to it. Before it passes.
I have absolutly no idea what to make of it.

I was sitting on my bed about 2 feet from the wall. The thing behind me could have had room to sit comfortably but instead it was lined up in a way that it would have melded with my stereo and other items behind me if it had been in the physical world.

That's almost exactly what I was talking about. In this, physical, plane, there is no spot for these being to be. But, in hyperspace, they're right there. No matter what was there before. And, you, as a person, know it. But, you also know, back home, that can't be possible.
It's all.. quite hard to grasp at times.

As for my views on the chakras... When I enter DMT space and leave, it is always through uncontrollable deep breaths. Almost like I'm waking from a dream, extremely deep yawns. During these breaths I can feel something entering and leaving my lower abdomen .. "Me" ... After actually SEEING them last night and seeing how they connected to the energy (DMT induced visions ?) in the room, I'm very very very inclined to believe they are in fact real.

The same goes for me. When I enter, my breathe becomes almost completly uncontrollable. Sometimes, quick, panicy breathes(without the panic). Sometimes, deep, almost gasping breathes. As though I've been holding my breathe for minutes.
And, when I come back out, it's just yawns. Over and over and over. Exactly like waking up, from a dream. And yes, I always feel things shifting around inside of me upon leaving too. It's more like, things are lining back up, correctly. Re-organizing themselves, after such a trip.
(Something in hyperspace told me that this is actually where yawning came from. Coming back to our plane of existance, from another. It sounded almost to correct to me after coming back one night. But again, it's a fact from hyperspace, so, take what you will. )
And, I never really had a solid view of the chakras myself, for quite a while. I always enjoyed the idea of them, and thought it totally possible. But, only under certain circumstances. Lately, after seeing hyperspace, and all its wonders, I'm more inclined to believe in them, feel that they are actually there.

I can't help but feel the little girl knew the dark entities were well, dark... And like she was trying to warn me because she's dealt with them in the past.

As for the entity behind me, it had a very neutral feeling. It did not want to harm me. It did not want to help me. It wanted me to accept it's lessons on manipulating the space/energy so I could help myself to repel these negative beings. I believe once I enter that space again, I'll fully remember all of the motions that led to lighting up and enabling my chakras fully.

It sounds, like that little girl was almost, a sort of protector. Trying to warn you, to watch out for these guys. They're bad news.
And, the one behind you, sounds more like a teacher. Or, a guide. Showing you the ways. And, more importantly, what you needed to know.

I've never had feelings like I did last night. There was no real confusion afterwards like I usually get. Sitting here this morning, I still feel that whatever I experienced last night actually happened.

I hope I'm wrong though and this is just a drug. I do really hope that now. But I question it ...

Sometimes, when you come back, things are clearer feeling than they've ever been. Things are almost to clear. It all makes to much sense. And you feel as though it's not suppose to.. because it was all just in your head.
This.. above all else, is the ultimate question.
Is this.. place, that we are going, that we, can see, and fully interact with. We can feel it. Really feel it. Is, this place actually real?
That's the hardest question of them all. And, I don't really know if we'll ever find out the real, correct answer.

I.. I think it's somewhere. These things we see, are real, in some aspects. Which ones specifically, I have no clue.

You're not sounding crazy, at all. This was your experince, and it happened to you. You're just trying to relay, as best you can, the actual events that took place. Which, for most people around here, isn't an easy thing to do.
That place is tough. But, honestly, I don't think you have to worry about those beings any more. You've shown them, that they're not wanted. You do not want them to come into you. You were taught lessons to, protect yourself, to prevent these beings from coming to close, and, to channel your energy, to assert these feelings.
I think, if anything, in the long run, this will empower you more. Even if you don't have the knowledge here, in this place; up there, in that place, you're ready to protect yourself. If the need even comes again.
I'm sure they know not to mess around again. Or that behind who was guiding your hands might just show you another technique, and that one wouldn't be so nice to them.

 

[TurbatusAnimus]

Once I can get a quiet night here again I'm going to attempt to recreate a similar experience. At least see if I can manipulate the space again. All I know is before this experience last night I had something bothering me so bad that I couldn't sleep. I laid in bed for two hours before the ride to hyperspace thinking about this thing. I now cannot remember what it was whatsoever. It seems to have been wiped from my memory which is both relieving and concerning at the same time. Before I laid down other things were bothering me (but not as much) that I CAN recall... These all feel meaningless now.

After the experience last night ... I just feel so calm inside. So incredibly calm.
I have nerve issues that usually leave a weird almost "buzz" type feeling in me like I've drank 3 pots of coffee. I can't notice that today either. I just feel like something's changed, like life truly isn't going to ever be the same.
Time will tell. I'll post after my next experience...

Likely tomorrow (DMT)

I've also got a Diplopterys cabrerana/Caapi brew in the fridge. Enough for what I would call 3 moderate doses/two strong. I think I'ma go all out and see what happens. I feel the need to do some lengthy exploring.

 

[Soy sauce]

Once I can get a quiet night here again I'm going to attempt to recreate a similar experience. At least see if I can manipulate the space again. All I know is before this experience last night I had something bothering me so bad that I couldn't sleep. I laid in bed for two hours before the ride to hyperspace thinking about this thing. I now cannot remember what it was whatsoever. It seems to have been wiped from my memory which is both relieving and concerning at the same time. Before I laid down other things were bothering me (but not as much) that I CAN recall... These all feel meaningless now.

From what I'm gathering here, it almost sounds like these dark ones, could have been caused due to this thing that was bothering you. Something your mind kept running over and over again. Then you decided to go off to hyperspace for a bit, trying to push that bad thing away. But, in turn, it decided to come back out, as strong as ever.

Those dark ones, could actually just be a manifestation of your bother. The stress that was inside of your mind.
(I decided to head to hyperspace myself last night. The whole day had been pretty nice, but, I had a few lingering feelings, some negative, some not so much, that just wouldn't leave me. I decided hyperspace was the place to go, to let all those things just flow away from me. I'm not even sure it was a good idea. My open/closed eye visuals decided to meld with eachother, and at certain points, I couldn't even tell if my eyes were closed or not. It turned into a really dark trip. Everything was unrecognizable. Everything looked.. bad. I started to get scared. Realy scared. I had only done.. 22mgs. Usually, it's 30. Nothing was going right. Everything was messed up. My hands wern't even my own at this point. Nothing at all was familiar.)
Normally, I'd go in, with a nice, clear/clean mind. No worries, besides the usual nervousness, or pre-flight jitters.

After the experience last night ... I just feel so calm inside. So incredibly calm.
I have nerve issues that usually leave a weird almost "buzz" type feeling in me like I've drank 3 pots of coffee. I can't notice that today either. I just feel like something's changed, like life truly isn't going to ever be the same.
Time will tell. I'll post after my next experience...

And here, it sounds like a healing process has begun. When you were in hyperspace, you used your energy to push away these negative beings. These, negative thoughts, perhaps. And now, you feel better. Or, different. That's strange too, how you normally feel that buzz, due to nerve issues, and it's completly dissolved, at least for the near future. It sounds like you may have actually used some of the energy that messes with you, and used that for good. Sort of like, you're to full of energy. And, it doesn't know exactly what to do with itself, so, it creates this buzz that you feel. Now that you've had a chance to use that energy, for something other than its normal use, it's almost, disapated.

I've also got a Diplopterys cabrerana/Caapi brew in the fridge. Enough for what I would call 3 moderate doses/two strong. I think I'ma go all out and see what happens. I feel the need to do some lengthy exploring.

I've yet to test out any brews for myself, so, I have little to comment on here. But, what I can say, is to clear your mind beforehand. Don't, spur of the moment, it. Make sure your head's on straight. And there's no lingering issues. If there are, and you really can't help them, than maybe this is actually what your brew was made for.
I guess, what I'm really suggesting is, try and take that brew when you know it'll be the most benificial. When you're already at a good mind state.
Above all else, good luck!

And caban, your post is really quite intriguing.