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The search after the most potent cacti

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[quote='Coatl]It is my opinion that the cactus which Phlux posted is a Trichocereus pachanoi, not a Trichocereus peruvianus, but there is much debate and confusion surrounding these cacti.
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Oh my word, Coatl please dont get into this again.....Enough Said.


Much Peace
 
Phlux- said:
no not the same - the dlimo seems to pull much more, but after cleaning its about the same.
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interesting, and do you seem to get %3 yields using xylene? Thats a very special strain if you do.... Nice one :)

SWIM has one strain of Pachanoi that yields %3-3.5. But that number is cut in half once its cleaned
 
yeah 3% using xylene - all the white flesh is to be done soon - for comparison sake bob will use d-limo salted hcl.
 
Aegle said:
[quote='Coatl]It is my opinion that the cactus which Phlux posted is a Trichocereus pachanoi, not a Trichocereus peruvianus, but there is much debate and confusion surrounding these cacti.
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Oh my word, Coatl please dont get into this again.....Enough Said.


Much Peace

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Actually I'd really like to see a nice discussion (on a separate thread of course) as to how to correctly identify different Trichocereus species. SWIM can tell no more than "yeah, it looks like Trichocereus, also looks like an active one, might be pachanoi/peruvianus/bridgesii"

Other than gut feeling, which macro- and micro- characteristics make a cactus pachanoi, peruvianus or bridgesii? Can there be strains of peruvianus that look like pachanoi and vice versa?
 
Infundibulum said:
Aegle said:
[quote='Coatl]It is my opinion that the cactus which Phlux posted is a Trichocereus pachanoi, not a Trichocereus peruvianus, but there is much debate and confusion surrounding these cacti.
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Oh my word, Coatl please dont get into this again.....Enough Said.


Much Peace
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Actually I'd really like to see a nice discussion (on a separate thread of course) as to how to correctly identify different Trichocereus species. SWIM can tell no more than "yeah, it looks like Trichocereus, also looks like an active one, might be pachanoi/peruvianus/bridgesii"

Other than gut feeling, which macro- and micro- characteristics make a cactus pachanoi, peruvianus or bridgesii? Can there be strains of peruvianus that look like pachanoi and vice versa?
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Infundibulum

I would also like to have a nice discussion about identifying cacti as its a very wide open topic and there is a lot of misidentification especially when it comes to cacti. But there was such an awful attack launched about this very issue about Phluxs cacti in the past, I am afraid that it might come to that again. Hence why i thought it was best to just kindly state that this issue shouldn't be brought up again.


Much Peace
 
I can certainly act civil.

We don't need a bunch of drama.

Let's talk about cactus and only cactus and keep personal insults out of it and have an open debate!

"Can there be strains of peruvianus that look like pachanoi and vice versa? "
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Yes! And I'd love to back up that claim with evidence! Factual evidence about cacti, not simply just stating "I'm right, your wrong" that is silly and proves nothing.

The people of the Nexus deserve a fair and open debate!
 
A quote from Mr.Smith-

Andean dreamer, your plants is an excellent example of the effect environment can have on growth. Your plants when in Ecuador looks like nothing else out there, but when you have taken it to a different environment it grows quite identically to the "short spined T. peruvianus" (T. pachanoi Britton & Rose).
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Awrite guys, let's stop it here! Please leave any bitterness aside.

Coatl, I expect from you to make a decent thread anytime soon giving some good information about cacti and how to identify them properly. It is really needed. Any debate should be done there.
 
*'Coatl is now leaving all bitterness aside and plans to speak only about the debate at hand*

Ok sounds good, I'll start a thread.
 
Is IDing cactus really all that simple?

I've read a fair bit and seen a good few of them in my time, but I still can't tell the difference between the TP's.

Certainly isn't worth crying about though.. and that goes to all of you!

...and even you!
 
Peruvianus... Pachanoi..... It doesn't matter.... It all comes from the same place if you go back far enough

Funny the little games we play to win just a nanosecond of righteousness

:)
 
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