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There IS a political party that vows to end prohibition!

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ohayoco said:
I am amazed. There is actually a political party with a conscience. And they are growing in influence. Vote Green!


There's no such thing as a wasted vote.
Supporting the party whose policies you really believe in, rather than sinking to 'tactical voting', sends out a message to the powers that be.
Vote Green to end the War on Drugs! :)
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I already voted for Greens in my country, but do not think their possible victory in election will change the legal status of drugs, especially that psychedelic ones, for benefit of DMT Nexus members.
 
Drugs... illegal... or even legal...

I still do them anyways.😉

Its nice to see something like this happen. I'd like to see prohibition go in my lifetime, (although I doubt it will) but regardless of what happens, I'd just like to see our educations systems (and drug programs alike) educate children and students better than they do today.
 
They've been saying this for over 20 years and nothing has changed. They were already part of the gouvernment where I live and they tolerated every impossible shit-law and did NOTHING!!! to end prohibition.

Don't fool yourself.
 
40oztofreedom said:
Drugs... illegal... or even legal...

I still do them anyways.😉

Its nice to see something like this happen. I'd like to see prohibition go in my lifetime, (although I doubt it will) but regardless of what happens, I'd just like to see our educations systems (and drug programs alike) educate children and students better than they do today.
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I don´t agree.
It´s important to change the legal status of drugs, especially that endogenous :lol:, but the antidrug education is basically at good level. For example, I´ve got a book from Harry Shapiro about drugs called ,Drugs... etc.´ printed in UK which is a drug handbook. Good work, I say.
 
obliguhl said:
They've been saying this for over 20 years and nothing has changed. They were already part of the gouvernment where I live and they tolerated every impossible shit-law and did NOTHING!!! to end prohibition.

Don't fool yourself.
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I do not believe in democracy anymore, but Greens IMHO are good alternative to the political mainstream. I don´t fool myself, I just think green.
 
obliguhl said:
They've been saying this for over 20 years and nothing has changed. They were already part of the gouvernment where I live and they tolerated every impossible shit-law and did NOTHING!!! to end prohibition.

Don't fool yourself.
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Maybe in your country ending prohibition isn't part of their manifesto? You know I'm pretty sure they're not a worldwide party, so each country's greens are independent of others. Or maybe they face too much opposition to be able to instigate the end of prohibition yet? Can I ask what country you're talking about, and can you elaborate please?

Ending prohibition is hardly a vote winner- it alienates much of the population who still believe drugs should be illegal. I doubt they'd ever argue the case unless they were doing so because it is the ethical choice. At least they acknowledge it is the ethical course of action, unlike the other parties who would continue the War on Drugs.
 
obliguhl said:
but Greens IMHO are good alternative to the political mainstream.
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They ARE the political mainstream where I live and they've done nothing good at all.
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Maybe they are what You wrote but they ecologically oppose the main political parties. And ecology comes for me always first.
Where do You live?
 
obliguhl said:
but Greens IMHO are good alternative to the political mainstream.
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They ARE the political mainstream where I live and they've done nothing good at all.
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in the states, they're far from the political mainstream. they're a branch of the Independent party.

they're not a mainstream party at all, since they are not as backed by corporate lobbyist funds as the traditional two-party system.
 
benzyme said:
obliguhl said:
but Greens IMHO are good alternative to the political mainstream.
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They ARE the political mainstream where I live and they've done nothing good at all.
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in the states, they're far from the political mainstream. they're a branch of the Independent party.

they're not a mainstream party at all, since they are not as backed by corporate lobbyist funds as the traditional two-party system.
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All correct. In Europe, they are oriented towards ecology. I think I might join them.
 
Drug laws have pushed drug-trade into the hands of criminals. Therefore drug's are associated with crime and therefore, no mainstream politician in the near future will end prohinition, since this will give you a 'soft-on-crime' image.

The only possible exceptions to this sad reality are the religious sacraments; peyote, ayahuasca, san-pedro, etc.
 
The law on this isn't too important. I always say live by your own morals, but be prepared to take responsibility in your own society if the shit hits the fan. But don't bend over completely.
 
Firstly, I am not a lawyer and this in not legal advice ...
Secondly, Statutes, or Acts, are NOT laws.
wake and bacon said:
Yeah, so... what happens when you get arrested and sent to jail anyway? What happens when you need an ambulance?

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Ambulance? call one. They can't exactly say no. But you will be liable for a bill.

Ever heard the saying "Ignorance of the law is no excuse"
There are only 3 ways to break the law, Harm someone, damage someone elses property or use fraud in your contracts.
When a Law is broken there is always an injured party and a claim. Always ask "who is making a claim against me ?"
If you get arrested and sent to jail for breaking the law then it serves you right.
But they cannot hold you on statutory charges if you have lawfully revoked consent to be governed.

I have it easy because all statute law in Australia is British and I am an Original. Try to use it aganst me on my land and that is an act of war.
"See those 2 men in the corner your honour, they are U.N human rights workers and if you attempt to use British law against me they will arrest you"

This could be a lot longer but it's not my duty to educate everyone. If your interested then exercise your own due diligence and reasearch any claims you find interesting.


I like the quote in your sig btw :d
 
DeadLizard said:
If you get arrested and sent to jail for breaking the law then it serves you right.
But they cannot hold you on statutory charges if you have lawfully revoked consent to be governed.
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Why does it serve you right?
Hmm I don't know about Australia but in most countries the 'social contract' cannot be revoked, i.e. you can't declare yourself outside of the legal system.

And are you really an aboriginal Australian? Or just joking around?
If you really are I and I expect others who have never met someone from your culture would like to hear about your experiences...
 
ohayoco said:
DeadLizard said:
If you get arrested and sent to jail for breaking the law then it serves you right.
But they cannot hold you on statutory charges if you have lawfully revoked consent to be governed.
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Why does it serve you right?
Hmm I don't know about Australia but in most countries the 'social contract' cannot be revoked, i.e. you can't declare yourself outside of the legal system.

And are you really an aboriginal Australian? Or just joking around?
If you really are I and I expect others who have never met someone from your culture would like to hear about your experiences...
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Why does it serve you right? Because you caused harm and didn't provide remedy. All matters can be settled out of court. Adjudication is only required when there is controversy, and that is when you wind up in jail.

'social contract' cannot be revoked
No contract can be entered into in ignorance. If you later find out that equal consideration was not given, i.e you gave up your rights so they can give you permission to exercise them,(That doesn't seem like a contract I would knowingly sign.) you can notifiy them that the contract is invalid.
Most people get screwed by the system because they don't know (or care) how it works, for example in the motor vehicle act an Accident is defined as an "intentional collision".

I like to know how things work.

And are you really an aboriginal Australian? Or just joking around?
aboriginal is a term that means "Not original". I am from of the original people of this land but not of their culture. The Commonwealth of Australia's government did a great job of destroying the culture in a lot of areas. And I have only been interested in finding out about my heritage recently.
 
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