Thread for Oral Dosage in Pharmahuasca w/ DMT Dosage Poll

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I think there's many unseen factors when it comes to dosage. If worked with consistently, personal dosage can change drastically with time, to where - say 5 years or so ago, you might have needed 220mg harmala freebase and 100mg DMT, but then now due to overall sensitivity to the experience/etc - you might only need 180mg harmala freebase and 50mg DMT to get to the same place, possibly even deeper. It does happen with many, and it's certainly happened with me.

But there's other factors that play into how strong the experience can/will be - diet, physiology, mental standing - all these things are in constant flux to more or less a degree, nothing's static. I really do think it's more complicated than just dosage though. I've had many experience where I took much lower dosages than normal and the doors were blown clean off, some of those experiences much stronger than the bigger dosage experiences.

 

[Jees]

There's something ambiguous about dosages spinning the thread.
It plays indeed a role, yet not. :lol:

 

[DMTripper]

My advice is START LOW and work your way up if you want to avoid traumatic experience.
I speak of experience. I'm still working my way through a trip I had more than 4 years ago. And before that trip I looked at my self as a seasoned tripper. Had had many life changing trips on so called heroic doses. Had many times had to fight for my sanity.

But that pharma trip 4 years ago was way beyond any terror I had ever been through. And that was on 250mg's of caapi extracted harmalas and 85mg's of freebase DMT.

START LOW. People have very different sensitivity to these compounds.
You can always work your way up.

 

[DesykaLamgeenie]

But that pharma trip 4 years ago was way beyond any terror I had ever been through. And that was on 250mg's of caapi extracted harmalas and 85mg's of freebase DMT.

How do other doses of pharma compare to that experience for you? In other words, were the effects of that dose typical for you with that amount? Or were the effects unusually intense that time for unknown reasons?

 

[DMTripper]

But that pharma trip 4 years ago was way beyond any terror I had ever been through. And that was on 250mg's of caapi extracted harmalas and 85mg's of freebase DMT.

How do other doses of pharma compare to that experience for you? In other words, were the effects of that dose typical for you with that amount? Or were the effects unusually intense that time for unknown reasons?

This was my first and only time on pharma. I don't know if I will ever do that again. But I was alone and that was a bad idea for a first time on pharma. I might handle that dose today if I had someone with me for guidance. But I'm not ready to do any experiments with that now. I'd do aya with a trained guide or changa but not pharma.

But like I said we're all different and it's just a good idea to start low and work your way up.

 

[DMTripper]

I might never understand what happened that night. But it all started very sinister. I had never prior to that given any thought that there might be some demons able to seriously mess with your mind and soul but now I'm convinced. And I think I got attacked by one of those. We're not alone in the universe and we exist on many levels. I got messed up on a level science has still no understanding of. That's my perspective after this experience. My energy field got fucked up.

 

[DesykaLamgeenie]

But like I said we're all different and it's just a good idea to start low and work your way up.

I definitely agree.

I think anyone doing it this way will reach the level of experience they are meant to.

 

[chocobeastie]

Just to be clear, I never said not to start small. I just said, doses of 50-100mg do not represent for many people where these materials can take us and do not represent a standard dose or a dose that is going to crack a lot of people through into truly visionary states.

DMTripper makes a good point, there are malevolent beings out there, IF you are going to do this, my view is that you must learn to deal with them.

And it is not really about dose, the lower doses will not protect you from them, but also, the lower doses will often not allow you to face and work with what is there.

And when you work your way up, there is a good chance you will have traumatic experiences as well.

People often vastly underestimate the seriousness of these states of being.

 

[tregar]

Good poll.