Tips for first time Pharma trip sitter?

[Purges]

So my first Pharma is impending and i want to make sure everything goes as smoothly as possible. My Girlfriend has agreed to be my sitter for the trip, which is awesome of her - but she is unsure what exactly to do. I told her for the most part, nothing - but if I am struggling maybe some calming words and a nice rub on the back. Obviously she knows that she may have to help me to the bathroom in the event of a 'backwards purge', and to check on me and make sure I am not drowning in vomit etc, but I am interested in the more 'subtle' ways she can help me through my experience.

My GF has tripped with me many times on LSD, 2CB and 2CI, and has smoked low - mid sized doses of DMT as well as dissosciatives such as high dose Ketamine and low dose MXE, as well as combos of the above and more (no DMT combos though), so she is by no means a stranger to tripping and deep mindstates, how ever as we all know DMT is a different kettle of fish to the above substances, so I would like her to be as prepared as possible to help me through the journey.

Maybe even put some nice music to change the direction that things are going? Are there any suggestions? My usual bag would be something along the lines of Bonobo or DJ Shadow, but I wonder if even these laid back artists may be too hectic in such deep states of mind? I'm not sure whether Icaros would be a good option, or whether any music at all would be worthwhile judging from my previous experiences with Freebase and Changa...

I am not planning on taking a massive dose - 200mg white caapi alks and 50mg DMT fumarate with another 10mg freebase in the GVG just in case I need to go a little further. Does this sound like a manageable dose for a first timer? Should I be expecting 2-4 hrs or 4-8hrs from this?

I am used to smoked breakthroughs and think I am prepared for what ever I may encounter out there, but the length of an oral dose will be a new departure for me entirely, as will the nausea and purging. Actually I have purged on a number of Psychs, so that isn't strictly true, but it has been a while since I have tripped hard and vomited lots.

So what do you tell your sitters to do should you need help? Are there any warning signs that thing may not be going to plan? What safety measures should we have in place just in case? I will be sure to tell her that even if I am convinced I am dying, I am almost certainly not. I also don't want her to sit there worrying about me for the entire trip.

Normally i am not nearly so cautious before taking a substance, but I am taking this very seriously as I know it is a potentially life changing experience I am about to undertake, which does scare me a little.

Any how, I have rambled on long enough now so please fire away, and don't be shy to add anything no matter how trivial you think, I will consider it all to be worthwhile and helpful.

Much Peace and many Loves,

Purges x


(and yes, I will be sure to write a report when all is said and done!)

 

[PrimalWisdom]

Yeah man the best thing she can do is let you trip and just check in on you every now and then.
If things are going awry she should definitely have some light music at the ready, music's ability to change the direction of a trip is awesome, and on a few occasions it's saved me from a trip turning bad. - this is a Carbon Based Lifeforms mix I've been listening to for a few days now. AWESOME STUFF! Mixcloud

Have fun man, hope it's a stellar voyage


Peace

PW

 

[Purges]

Why thank you PeeDubbya, that mix does sound like a goodun to drift off to! Hopefully with all this planning and preparation it should turn out to be an epic night :d

 

[oneistheall]

be very careful with pharma dosing.
I would lower dmt to 40 and caapi to 130, caution is your friend.You can go further next time, with 10mg increments.
the point is that dosing varies a lot from person to person and it is advisable to experiment with lower doses.

 

[PrimalWisdom]

Yeah I was scared of under-dosing my first time so I downed 75mgs of DMT FB - When I got the first inkling of the impending trip I did panic that I had taken too much. For a good 30 minutes while the DMT took hold of me I was pretty terrified, pacing up and down, wondering what I would do if I had overdone it, I was also alone at home and really kicked myself for choosing to do it alone my 1st time. But thank goodness it turned out to be just right. I think I would have had a less panicky beginning to the trip if I had worked my up to a good dosage.

Once again, best of luck fellow neuronaut

Peace
PW

 

[Purges]

Decided on 175mg caapi which I am currently waiting for effects, and 46mg DMT with 10mg loaded up in the GVG should I need a boost. Playing it safe first time, then upping the dose in round 2 if needs be

Cheers for the advice and good vibes guys, much appreciated!

 

[smokerx]

Decided on 175mg caapi which I am currently waiting for effects, and 46mg DMT with 10mg loaded up in the GVG should I need a boost. Playing it safe first time, then upping the dose in round 2 if needs be

Cheers for the advice and good vibes guys, much appreciated!

how is it going ? let us know once you get back on earth

 

[Purges]

I am back! 8) It was a nice trip, pretty mild tbh, but certainly worthwhile. I got some good thinking/ meditating done, decided to vape moar which brought on a nice violent purge lol. Visually it was fairly uneventful, ocassional glimmerings of hyperspace that never really came to much, I think I will be comfortable upping the dose a fair bit next time. I polished off a couple of small bowls of Changa to finnish the session which certainly added extra depth a vision to the mix. This method is certainly something that takes refinement, I look forward to finding my sweet spot :d

 

[hydrocarbon]

Maybe even put some nice music to change the direction that things are going? Are there any suggestions? My usual bag would be something along the lines of Bonobo or DJ Shadow, but I wonder if even these laid back artists may be too hectic in such deep states of mind? I'm not sure whether Icaros would be a good option, or whether any music at all would be worthwhile judging from my previous experiences with Freebase and Changa...

I found this awesomely inspiring on a recent changa journey (I didn't go too deep):

and this:

I imagine other chants would be great to listen to as well.

 

[hydrocarbon]

Yeah I was scared of under-dosing my first time so I downed 75mgs of DMT FB - When I got the first inkling of the impending trip I did panic that I had taken too much. For a good 30 minutes while the DMT took hold of me I was pretty terrified, pacing up and down, wondering what I would do if I had overdone it, I was also alone at home and really kicked myself for choosing to do it alone my 1st time. But thank goodness it turned out to be just right. I think I would have had a less panicky beginning to the trip if I had worked my up to a good dosage.

The only difficult experiences I have had were solo journeys; it will be a long while before I feel comfortable going it alone. An upcoming juremahuasca experience will be with two fellow buddhists, one of which will sit and offer guidance and consolation as necessary; I feel pretty confident in this setting that if it does get too heavy, I will not be lost to my own thoughts for any length of time.