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SWIM just decided to extract 100g of MHRB with Xylene and evaporate, just to see the difference between that and a naphtha/freezer precip. After collecting 3 Xylene pulls he had about 130ml of PISS YELLOW Xylene. He evapped that to leave the same circular patterned yellow spikey crystals as the picture.

Editors Note: This refers to the picture on the left in Figure 4.

Oh... my... god! SWIM just finally sampled this batch and for the first time in almost 1 year... the REAL DEAL. He has been searching and searching for this...

SWIM tried just about EVERY known vendor of MHRB and it was all the same... NOT what DMT should be like. So he emailed an obscure, little known vendor asking for a sample. The vendor sent 100g. Well, he finally got a chance to extract and, holy shit, is he satisfied. Entities, geometry, self-transforming machine-flowers. Blown away.

He will always extract the same way from now on... pull with Xylene and evap all the way down, wash with ammonia, and blast off.
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After i read this i decided to pull everything in it by only toluene with 3 pulls. I tried syntetic naphta before and i can reach only a few white crystals at last.
two years ago the orange one which i bought in soulclipse festival and tried was much more harder than this. this time i want to learn what is the difference between toluene and xylene? What PH works best for toluene ? why the white crystals are weaker than the orange or red ones?



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the white crystals are more purified..and have dont have any other alkies in them...the other alkies are the ones that make you BLAST off...the white crystals are more like mist compared to the sledge hammer that orange crystals are
 
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can you compare them to one another jorkest? a friend has only tried the white ones.. whats the orange stuff like? also have you compared the spice pulled with toluene with the one pulled with xylene? they are supposed to be different as my friend has heard.
 
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SWIM cant say about the difference between toluene and xylene...but the white xtals have this very easy quality to them...its more like drifting through a landscape..watching things happen...and sometimes its crazy ride...but usually the more orange-ish xtals have more of a punch...its more interactive or something...the orange crystals are also much denser usually so there is more 'spice' in it than the fluffy white...you need to vape more of the white..SWIM doesnt use a scale..and just kinda feels it out...but with the orange..one tiny little chunk can send you hard...and its very powerful...having multiple different visions...its nice
 
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my friend usually pulls the white spice from the jungle spice before drying it finally. so my friends jungle spice must mainly consist of dmt-n-oxide and the other alkaloids contained in MHRB..

do you recommend also having some spice with the full alkaloid mix in it? my friend has considered making some spice by just pulling the whole mix out of the solution with toluene.

so far my friend has this: - jungle spice deprived of n,n-dmt
- white spice with a yellow tint
- completely white spice (double preciped & double remelted) [also very dense stuff]
- 5-ho-dmt

he wants to try making these things next: - 5-MeO-DMT
- full alkaloid mix pulled with xylene
- full alkaloid mix pulled with toluene
- full alkaloid mix pulled with d-limonene

any other recommendations? ;)
 
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After pulling toluene and vaporize it. I got this on the picture. I scrape it. I try to taste it but it burns my tongue and mouth and there is something wrong about the smell of the spice. I think it happens because of the solvent left in the spice. How can i make it more clean?
 
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endlessness said:
dissolve it in pure alcohol and evap again, this will give more time for any solvent remains to evaporate.. and you should leave it evaporating for many days just in case, then scrape and leave the scraped thing dry even more..
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Thanks endlessness for the advise. I m gonna try it soon. By your alcohol method. Do i need any wash after ?

Also after final recrystalization I will put my mason jar containg my spice (no solvent, just spice) into a hot water bath and melt it down. I then put it into the freezer for about 10 minutes. The spice that comes out is denser, easier to vaporize, and for some reason more potent. I highly suggest trying the spice meltdown method....you will be suprised at the results!
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And also i m doing this one right now.
 
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Jorkest said:
the white crystals are more purified..and have dont have any other alkies in them...the other alkies are the ones that make you BLAST off...the white crystals are more like mist compared to the sledge hammer that orange crystals are
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YES! I want the sledge hammer! I will pull with xylene instead of naptha and see what happens!
 
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I tried a couple of shots but it is not pottent that i expected. I can't blast off. so what's wrong with these toluene pulled yellow spice ? It's not smelling like spice. But look on the picture it seems like spice. what's wrong with it ?
 
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that depends... was this an A/B? Or a STB?

If it was an A/B- and swiy didnt defat- the impurities could be fats, tannins and other stuff. If he neglected to wash the nonpolar with slightly basic H20, he could also possibly have excess lye in his product.

If a STB tek was used, same thing... the product needs to be cleaned up.
 
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endlessness said:
dissolve it in pure alcohol and evap again, this will give more time for any solvent remains to evaporate.. and you should leave it evaporating for many days just in case, then scrape and leave the scraped thing dry even more..
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What kind of alcohol?
 
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basically anything, as long as it is at least 99%.. pure ethyl alcohol or IPA should both work perfectly.. the only thing is that it needs to be pure, or else any remaining water, for example, will make final evaporation take ages and probably more likely keep final product more oily.

for sure methanol must work too, but SWIM always preffers avoiding toxic products
 
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TRyptamine said:
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LOok at those white to yellow crystals. they are extracted from mimoza hositils rootbark( bought from 100herbgalaxy.com) by using marsfold method and pulled with toluen. I smoke enough but that's not the thing i m searching for. My experience was 2 years ago. I bought 2 grams orange dmt. and just a little piece has unbelievable effects. It was very very strong. U know what i mean. i need a psychedelic punch, a blast off. I found a cehmist guy and can reach almost everything now. Need a way to extract these magic bombs which i missed sooo much. what's wrong with these spice ?
 
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I doubt anything is wrong with your spice.

Change your smoking method, smoke more, or clean that stuff up by recrystalizing.

Also, an Ammonia wash is probably the worst way to clean up your spice.

A thread on washing spice

Xylene pull
Jungle Spice
Another JS tech

There is alot of info on this site about Jungle Spice, how to get it, how to purify it, and the difference in STB vs A/B Jungle Spice...take a look around!
 
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