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acolon_5 said:
^ There's always a touch of fear and respect when I have my spice loaded up and ready to go. It does get easier, but even after countless launches (and countless rough rides) the fear is there.

For me, it's about pushing through the fear. The terror subsides, but I think the fear is just a healthy respect for something greater than ourselves.

Your post is very reassuring. Thanks for that.

What is the set&setting you prefer to trip on/in?
 
longshot said:
acolon_5 said:
^ There's always a touch of fear and respect when I have my spice loaded up and ready to go. It does get easier, but even after countless launches (and countless rough rides) the fear is there.

For me, it's about pushing through the fear. The terror subsides, but I think the fear is just a healthy respect for something greater than ourselves.

Your post is very reassuring. Thanks for that.

What is the set&setting you prefer to trip on/in?

I like to experience spice in two settings:

1) at home, in bed, low lighting, complete silence (phone off, wife notified, no music)
2) in the woods, evening or night

I prefer #1

I, personally, also like to go for a ride on the spice train solo. I find that distractions are bad, plus I get a little self concious even around the closest of friends.
 
longshot said:
hoppah said:
Eternal_LVX said:
Maybe I'm being a coward but, after last night's trip, I'm not sure I want to smoke spice again. It was my first trip and I guess I had all this shit built up in my head about how it was going to be. The body high was almost too intense to want to do again. It really scared the hell out of me. The smoke was harsh and smelled weird. someone told me that it might be because I burned the spice. If I don't burn the spice, will I still have that same intense body feeling? I'm wondering if I will have different experiences each time or if it will just be that same uncomfortable feeling? Granted, it wasn't all bad. I felt like I met the spirit of the plant but it was almost too powerful to be around. Damn, I want to see the beauty that everyone keeps talking about.

Bob is with you - every time he hits it, he experiences a slight terror at the apparent physical effect. Bob cannot tell if there are any _real_ physical effects, or if (and as he and I suspect) the ego-blasting "tearing away" of his point of perception from "this world" just causes him to _feel_ like he's being shoved towards some sort of precipice. But it is a scary feeling. Bob of course overcomes it with will and continues on.

And that is what you must do. You are getting to where Bob gets after one hit. When you have that scary feeling and everything seems "wrong", just trust it and hit it again. Hard. You will soon forget your fear as you are launched into the bosom of the Infinite and bask in Its glory.

H.

You overcome the fear by repetition?

After first hit, I always take a step back; "What am i actually doing?" "What is going to happen?" "Will i be okay?" "Am i running from a problem?"...
This is an unpleasant mood that pops out when I take the first hit. Then I hold my breath for a good 7seconds. I feel stunned, the "uncomfortable feeling" in my chest is overpowering and it doesn't leave quick enough. But I try a second hit , which often fails because I'm too messed up&worried to take another hit the right way. Then I get incredibly frustrated about myself, my bottle and my technique for ,again, not working. And then I have no choice to wait my trip out, because I have messed up the launch and my body feels very sick and weak. (Do I give up too fast?) I'm not able to maintain a happy feeling during the launch.

I've got a strong need that wants to predict everything, that wants to be assured of what's going to happen and how other people want me to behave.
If i don't know what I'll be up against, I usually don't participate.
There has to be a connection and I want to solve both at the same time. 1 The fear of tripping 2 Me trying to have 100% control on my future (It's on a higher level, so its not only a need to control myself, which is normal, but my surroundings and what will happen to me and my feelings)

This is the only barrier between me and dmt, and i deeply want to overcome it and see it's true colors.

I'm not fearful when I begin, it's more a feeling of terror over the apparent effect. And I push through it because I know what's coming. Every time that first hit comes on, though, it's a huge rush, and the feeling is so strange and disorienting, it is just a little bit terrifying. It's terrifying like getting on a new rollercoaster is... you know it's going to be fun but when you're topping that first hill a tiny part of your lizard brain is flooding you with signals that maybe this wasn't such a great idea...

H.
 
gammagore said:
I will always predose, always. Just to settle them nerves and get em feet wet:)

Hope you find what works for you.

For how long do you need to wait until you go all in? I find it hard to break through if I predose even if I wait 30 min.
 
I like to experience spice in two settings:

1) at home, in bed, low lighting, complete silence (phone off, wife notified, no music)
2) in the woods, evening or night

I prefer #1

I, personally, also like to go for a ride on the spice train solo. I find that distractions are bad, plus I get a little self concious even around the closest of friends.

Great Idea, but I would think twice about doing it alone because my worst trips had been when I fly solo. Including my last one that scared me away from spice for 3 weeks and counting.

So Longshot, don't feel bad, you are not alone.

P.L.U.R.
 
I have a few tips . Easing in at lower doses can be tricky
There can be this super weird negative vibe that comes over you .
There can be a sick and queesy feeling as well as feeling heated up .
These things are not necessarily a sign of things to come .
These symptoms can be misleading .

First thing is I always have candied ginger on hand and eat it before andin between the
Whole process . The next thing is to keep the smoking apparatus super clean .
I believe the negativety and sick feelings can come from melted and
Burning spice in the screen and pipe . Have plenty of spice on hand . Try to
Use the cleanest pure spice you can .

I use mullien as a carrier herb it was a game changer for me
And I never go without it . Look it up its very effective and grows all over
The place .

Have fruit like Apple or mango around . Eat in between if you feel queesy .

That's just for starters
 
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