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Too much HCL in salting, Kash tek. Can it destroy the alks?

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skoobysnax

skoobysnax

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I am doing Kash's A/B. I am at the salting stage and I added to much HCL on my toluene pulls. Will this destroy my work? I went down to below ph2 :(

mesc noob mistake, ugh
 
It shoujd not be a problem. The only thing is that more "things" will migrate in the water which lead to a less pure mescaline.
 
DansMaTete said:
It shoujd not be a problem. The only thing is that more "things" will migrate in the water which lead to a less pure mescaline.
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Thanks much! You are one one my best friends here :) I was panicking that all my worked was for nought lol. Some aspects of less pure may be OK by me if it in terms of other alks but I will be washing this well.
 
Once i added too much hcl after a calculation mistake and the mesc came out black. I tried washing but it was too dirty, so it stayed too dark. I redissolved it in water, re-based and re-extracted, and then the results were perfect.

So yes as said before no worries, it will just come out more impure but you can clean it no problem
 
skoobysnax said:
I am doing Kash's A/B. I am at the salting stage and I added to much HCL on my toluene pulls. Will this destroy my work? I went down to below ph2 :(

mesc noob mistake, ugh
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No problem mate. Boil to a very small amount and evap in a wide dish. Excess hcl will evap as well. Then just redissolve in hot alcohol to recrystallize.
 
1ce said:
skoobysnax said:
I am doing Kash's A/B. I am at the salting stage and I added to much HCL on my toluene pulls. Will this destroy my work? I went down to below ph2 :(

mesc noob mistake, ugh
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No problem mate. Boil to a very small amount and evap in a wide dish. Excess hcl will evap as well. Then just redissolve in hot alcohol to recrystallize.
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Cool, I placed my tray in the oven at 200F and watched it closely until it was a thin layer of solution. The slow evap is needlepointing on the edges now. looks a dirty brown but all is well. Thx everyone!! Hat tip to Kash. This is my go to tek now.
 
Congratz on the success! Yeah a little bit extra hcl is generally no big deal and evaporating with a fan should still give crystals. Doing a cold acetone or MEK wash usually cleans them right up.
 
Morbidbystandard said:
My buddy ran into the same problem but faced with golden brown tar. Can someone explain in detail where to go from here?
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Use purification step (from Kash's tek)

Or, as endlessness said post #4
endlessness said:
I tried washing but it was too dirty, so it stayed too dark. I redissolved it in water, re-based and re-extracted, and then the results were perfect.
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After looking over the tek it was discovered that the statement concentrated hcl in the body of the text did not mean 32 to 36%. The ingredients list states hcl muriatic acid which is usually around 10.:?

Still the skills are really lacking and some considerations are going towards not enough NaHO
 
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