Please excuse me as I'm new to this sort of fiction, bear in mind my errors as I get used to this forum. This is my first post in this scope. Also my apologies as it is very long. I am struggling to analyse this, and formulate a better progression.
Now, I an very, very well aware that the substance is potent. When the substance is vaporized, the onset is VERY rapid, and completely alien, and this leads to confusion at times, am I correct?
So, there must be ways that are more gentle than inhaling the substance. Inhaling the substance is very intense, but is there a way to control the onset and intensity of the substance to ease into it? I've thought about very small amounts for inhalation, and the first time it was a very small amount which caused a striking physical sensation, and an over-saturation effect which might last a few minutes, as well as the carrier-wave.
another, larger amount of substance, thought to be a full amount (obviously this requires standardization, which is unavailable since I am unfamiliar with the way this works) would result in a very fast, strong effect, and the sort of "Thats enough!" impression one may get, halting intake. The SPO came, and a creature emerged from the pattern, the carrier wave was intense, and the last thing remembered was a reverberation, and a clicking here. The urge to lay down came, and was followed, in the head space was a rotating pattern, and aspects of the SPO in the real world.
Nothing is remembered unset eyes open, what must have been a very short time later. The effects lasted here, and reality was distorted and undulating, I feel like that patterns here persisted in the hallucinations affecting the real world, as the user went outside, to the planks of a deck in the sun, they would undulate and "breath", the sort of to-and-fro wave sensation creeps into thoughts, and all objects until full reality is restored about 25 minutes (guessed!) past initiation.
So I'm sorry now that my narrative is a bit disjointed, but as I said I am not quite "in" the mind to do it, i have a few questions.
Firstly, I think that the amount used was enough for a high-threshold experience, about 20mg, maybe a bit less considering loss, and now especially considering nothing is remembered from eyes-close to eyes-open and walking outside, I think that this must have been blacked out.
I think that in this case, the experience was too strong, and a forboding sense arrived immediately, with the entity, which I think should be called a Joker, it is a sort of large eyed pattern emergence, and did not communicate, but seemed to be watching.
So do you think a black out was caused by an ill-metered amount? Is the joker safe? the thoughts racing at the early point, after the SPO, during reality altering (strange perspectives, the entity emerging from the pattern) are of discomfort, and thinking "I need to go outside, i need to get some water, i need to have a cigarette," etc, thoughts of a sort of high-strung neuroticism, latching to these things in a time of discomfort.
After the black-out period (where hyperspace may have been reached, though likely not)there was an intense feeling of awe, the first word spoken are "That was weird." then right outside he goes. The perceptual distortions are intense, but based all in normal human reality. The distortions seem to be based on the SPO, and the thought distortions as well. All things seem to relate to the pattern at this point. It is striking.
I feel like the patterns (SPO), the carrier wave, the distortions, and how the entity emerged from the patterns have something to do with how the experience plays out. Is this fair?
My determination afterwards is that the onset was VERY rapid, too rapid, and the rift between nominal spacetime and spice-mediated reality was too abrupt, so the subject lost its ability to operate. This caused the anxiety, which caused the scattering of energies, which helped mediate the blackout. Everything was wonderful except the anxiety.
I wish to resolve the anxiety, I think that this anxiety speaks about the character here.
My questions, to sum up, are:
Do you personally feel the unexpected intensity mediated a blackout experience? Perhaps something happened in the headspace that was not able to be comprehended?
Could the spice abort the transmission, instead providing a more natural feeling experience to a human who, frankly, wigs out, and cannot operate within the intensities?
I describe the entity as a telepathic squirrel or bush-baby. It clicked audibly, but communication was not attempted due to confusion, and it did not seem to be trying, just watching. It did not have a form as such, it emerged from the SPO, Is this realistic to the spice experience?
and lastly, are there methods to ease into this transition? How can one take the spice without such a rapid, dramatic change? is that possible? What experiments would be performed to try and mediate the spice's effect? Is ayahuasca less of a "freight train" of melting walls and undulations and patterns? When one percieves the SPO, how close are you then? Can you percieve the pattern somewhat reliably without diving into another dimension?
During a subsequent test, the subject inhaled less than half that amount outside. The only effect was again, the anxiety, as sort of overwhelming sense of loss of control, too fast, and the patterns were percieved with the throat marble. The pattern was different this time, taking on a more melting, lava-lamp like character (leaves would seem to swirl into one another, melting, undulating). The Carrier wave was perceptible, quite prominently, but the effects in the day were all visual. at one point the subject began communicating with the pattern in a sense, and felt that the pattern was warning him. "this is a warning isn't it" but no response. there was a distinct feeling of a presence, though it would not approach. The subject refused closed-eye-space, and turned, walked away from a particularly menacing portion of the pattern. In retrospect, the experience was fascinating, but cause a great deal more anxiety than the first. He thought to eliminate his spice supply, but did not in the end.
In this experience, do you think the dosage was wise? to cut back far, but enough to perceive the pattern, though in a less cerebral form, the effects lasted less than half the time, but of full tree-melting, color saturation, pattern perception. The striking part in this is that the pattern was also felt internally, spitting some mucous collected about the uvula, the swirling melty pattern was perceived within the subject. This is the part that leads me to think the pattern and the experience must relate.
So, perhaps there is a way to potentiate a more gentle pattern? the leaves caused an organic melt-pattern, the sun aided this. Indoors the pattern was more hieroglyphic. Do alternate methods of intake reduce the time to onset? How long is the peak of the affect? how intense? what sort of setting mediates a gentle, muted experience? How realistic is this line of reasoning?
Again I greatly appreciate your input here, I am fascinated by this sort of thing, my motivation here is to try and get a better handle on contradictions, paradoxes, patterns, relatiative aspects of normal life. I have a great interest in psychology and philosophy, so it is clear to anyone where my motivation lies. I find exploring in this manner very stimulating, if difficult, and plan to persevere, but I have difficulties visualizing the stuff! It is, frankly, frightening. It is also alluring and fascinating...
Please respond if you have input, suggestions, alternate methods, ideal settings. ALL attempts are solo at this point, I don't know how to involve another person in the experience yet.
Now, I an very, very well aware that the substance is potent. When the substance is vaporized, the onset is VERY rapid, and completely alien, and this leads to confusion at times, am I correct?
So, there must be ways that are more gentle than inhaling the substance. Inhaling the substance is very intense, but is there a way to control the onset and intensity of the substance to ease into it? I've thought about very small amounts for inhalation, and the first time it was a very small amount which caused a striking physical sensation, and an over-saturation effect which might last a few minutes, as well as the carrier-wave.
another, larger amount of substance, thought to be a full amount (obviously this requires standardization, which is unavailable since I am unfamiliar with the way this works) would result in a very fast, strong effect, and the sort of "Thats enough!" impression one may get, halting intake. The SPO came, and a creature emerged from the pattern, the carrier wave was intense, and the last thing remembered was a reverberation, and a clicking here. The urge to lay down came, and was followed, in the head space was a rotating pattern, and aspects of the SPO in the real world.
Nothing is remembered unset eyes open, what must have been a very short time later. The effects lasted here, and reality was distorted and undulating, I feel like that patterns here persisted in the hallucinations affecting the real world, as the user went outside, to the planks of a deck in the sun, they would undulate and "breath", the sort of to-and-fro wave sensation creeps into thoughts, and all objects until full reality is restored about 25 minutes (guessed!) past initiation.
So I'm sorry now that my narrative is a bit disjointed, but as I said I am not quite "in" the mind to do it, i have a few questions.
Firstly, I think that the amount used was enough for a high-threshold experience, about 20mg, maybe a bit less considering loss, and now especially considering nothing is remembered from eyes-close to eyes-open and walking outside, I think that this must have been blacked out.
I think that in this case, the experience was too strong, and a forboding sense arrived immediately, with the entity, which I think should be called a Joker, it is a sort of large eyed pattern emergence, and did not communicate, but seemed to be watching.
So do you think a black out was caused by an ill-metered amount? Is the joker safe? the thoughts racing at the early point, after the SPO, during reality altering (strange perspectives, the entity emerging from the pattern) are of discomfort, and thinking "I need to go outside, i need to get some water, i need to have a cigarette," etc, thoughts of a sort of high-strung neuroticism, latching to these things in a time of discomfort.
After the black-out period (where hyperspace may have been reached, though likely not)there was an intense feeling of awe, the first word spoken are "That was weird." then right outside he goes. The perceptual distortions are intense, but based all in normal human reality. The distortions seem to be based on the SPO, and the thought distortions as well. All things seem to relate to the pattern at this point. It is striking.
I feel like the patterns (SPO), the carrier wave, the distortions, and how the entity emerged from the patterns have something to do with how the experience plays out. Is this fair?
My determination afterwards is that the onset was VERY rapid, too rapid, and the rift between nominal spacetime and spice-mediated reality was too abrupt, so the subject lost its ability to operate. This caused the anxiety, which caused the scattering of energies, which helped mediate the blackout. Everything was wonderful except the anxiety.
I wish to resolve the anxiety, I think that this anxiety speaks about the character here.
My questions, to sum up, are:
Do you personally feel the unexpected intensity mediated a blackout experience? Perhaps something happened in the headspace that was not able to be comprehended?
Could the spice abort the transmission, instead providing a more natural feeling experience to a human who, frankly, wigs out, and cannot operate within the intensities?
I describe the entity as a telepathic squirrel or bush-baby. It clicked audibly, but communication was not attempted due to confusion, and it did not seem to be trying, just watching. It did not have a form as such, it emerged from the SPO, Is this realistic to the spice experience?
and lastly, are there methods to ease into this transition? How can one take the spice without such a rapid, dramatic change? is that possible? What experiments would be performed to try and mediate the spice's effect? Is ayahuasca less of a "freight train" of melting walls and undulations and patterns? When one percieves the SPO, how close are you then? Can you percieve the pattern somewhat reliably without diving into another dimension?
During a subsequent test, the subject inhaled less than half that amount outside. The only effect was again, the anxiety, as sort of overwhelming sense of loss of control, too fast, and the patterns were percieved with the throat marble. The pattern was different this time, taking on a more melting, lava-lamp like character (leaves would seem to swirl into one another, melting, undulating). The Carrier wave was perceptible, quite prominently, but the effects in the day were all visual. at one point the subject began communicating with the pattern in a sense, and felt that the pattern was warning him. "this is a warning isn't it" but no response. there was a distinct feeling of a presence, though it would not approach. The subject refused closed-eye-space, and turned, walked away from a particularly menacing portion of the pattern. In retrospect, the experience was fascinating, but cause a great deal more anxiety than the first. He thought to eliminate his spice supply, but did not in the end.
In this experience, do you think the dosage was wise? to cut back far, but enough to perceive the pattern, though in a less cerebral form, the effects lasted less than half the time, but of full tree-melting, color saturation, pattern perception. The striking part in this is that the pattern was also felt internally, spitting some mucous collected about the uvula, the swirling melty pattern was perceived within the subject. This is the part that leads me to think the pattern and the experience must relate.
So, perhaps there is a way to potentiate a more gentle pattern? the leaves caused an organic melt-pattern, the sun aided this. Indoors the pattern was more hieroglyphic. Do alternate methods of intake reduce the time to onset? How long is the peak of the affect? how intense? what sort of setting mediates a gentle, muted experience? How realistic is this line of reasoning?
Again I greatly appreciate your input here, I am fascinated by this sort of thing, my motivation here is to try and get a better handle on contradictions, paradoxes, patterns, relatiative aspects of normal life. I have a great interest in psychology and philosophy, so it is clear to anyone where my motivation lies. I find exploring in this manner very stimulating, if difficult, and plan to persevere, but I have difficulties visualizing the stuff! It is, frankly, frightening. It is also alluring and fascinating...
Please respond if you have input, suggestions, alternate methods, ideal settings. ALL attempts are solo at this point, I don't know how to involve another person in the experience yet.
