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taliesin

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Hello all this is all very knew to me, my 1st. forum and my typing is the 2 finger hunt and peck sort so please forgive any breach in etiquette. But having read here for a while I've found you to be a sincere and reverent lot with a willingness to help, I'm hoping for some insight or advice on what I can do to further my experience
My son has been trying to help me cross the veil. My 1st. try I was so blown away by being tossed in the middle of a sentient neon collidescope of every color that my 1st. tought was holy s..t! I wasn't prepared for this and remembering old acid trips thought "I don't have the stamina for hours of this." Then I remembered it was only going to be 5 or 10 min. and I relaxed. Then I heard the music. What can I say about the music? Is that the songs of the stars?.. of the soul?...I listened in awe and yearning and watched in fascination and as it started to fade felt a profound sense of loss "I'm not going to go." and even the memory of the music was slipping away.
My 2nd. try I somehow didn't get enough and found the fractal world slightly sinister and the music was so faint I could barely hear. I floated off backward and to the left and felt the left coner of my head and half my eye break thru a ?viel?... into a bright blue place and there got stuck, literally. I was tethered to my body. The 1st. time I was completly bodiless, this time I couldn't disconnect and then it started to fade.
My 3rd. time I tried real hard to get enough and there I was in collidescope land, the music was not as powerfull as the 1st. time, but this was probably the most relaxed I'd been. Agin I started floating backwards and to the left, and again I found a ? wall ? with pale blue on one side and fractals on the other, again I went partially thru, although more of me this time, and got stuck I can't really see anything on the blue side but I'm aware things are there. My thoughts were "I'm not going to get to go." "Why can't I go?"
Has anyone experienced something like this? And does anyone have any thoughts or advice to share?

She's walking thru the clouds
With a circus mind runnin round
Butterflys and zebras and moonbeams
and fairytales
All she ever talks about is ridin with the wind
 
hi there, i would say just take your time with the spice, dont chase a break through. enjoy what its got to teach you for a while,and when its time for you to break through... you will:), and boy you,ll know it hehe.happy journeying.

peace
 
Hi Mom :)

Congrats on your first forum post EVER!

We have already talked in person about breaking through at great length, so I don't really have much to add here.
I think the problem may be that I have just over explained it to you. I keep telling you to try "this" and try "that", but really I just breakthrough so easily cause I just "don't" think about it too much.

Next time I will have you just relax more and think less... Just let it happen.
 
try a micro dose at first..then a few minutes later have them go for it...the micro dose will help relax them..and also unlock the door a bit
 
Thanks for the responses everyone, can't wait to try again. after the last time it's hard to remember why I had any fear. was that the veil I saw do you think?
 
itwoodbnice said:
question, i thought that you only had a minute to get it all in. can you smoke some...wait.. and then smoke some more?


One of my best experiences was when I did it like this. It sort of eased me into it and I remembered more than ever.
 
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