A fair step up in power from nn dmt? I have friends that tell me the complete opposite. That it's more potent by weight but the nn dmt experience is more powerful. LSD is more potent by weight than shrooms but that doesn't mean the experience is more powerful. Terence Mckenna made 5meo sound like the most boring psychedelic on the planet. Even Joe Rogan made it sound boring and thought nn dmt was the better of the 2. I think people confuse potency with power. Apparently 5-meo isn't a big event for every well-travelled psychonaut. We all have different brains. For some people 5meo is going to be amazing and for others it's not.
Let's be clear here..."power" and "potency" are two different things. Or, to put it another way, there is physiological potency, and phenomenological potency. LSD is obviously a much more potent drug gram for gram than either N,N-DMT or 5-MeO-DMT, but the latter two substances both far surpass it in power. So when I refer to a step up in power, I'm referring to phenomenological, experiential power. I would take the position that 5-MeO-DMT is both more physiologically potent than N,N-DMT, and more phenomenologically potent.
The views of your friends definitely go against the majority consensus regarding perceived differences in power when comparing 5-MeO-DMT and N,N-DMT from those with experience of both substances...it makes me question whether your friends have ever experienced a full breakthrough with 5-MeO. A sub-breakthrough could definitely be underwhelming, and I can easily see why someone who has only experienced it at that level would rate N-N-DMT a higher order experience (previous to my breakthrough experiences this year I had experimented with 5-MeO on a number of occasions previously, clearly never experiencing a breakthrough myself as I was a little underwhelmed). But a breakthrough 5-MeO-DMT is an entirely different level of experience, and in my own experience, far surpassed that of anything I have experienced with N,N-DMT or other psychedelics, and as mentioned I was able to retain more insights from that experience than anything I have experienced with N,N-DMT, which is another plus in my book.
If Terrence did claim to find the 5-MeO experience "boring" then that simply says more about him than the substance. I can see why 5-MeO wouldn't really vibe so well with Terrence, I don't think it really vibed with his whole rap. He was more into visions, entities and interdimensional alien themed stuff and that isn't really 5-MeO's experiential vibe, remember that he has a particular outlook which will affect his interpretation. Also the experience of 5-MeO is far harder to describe in words than other classical psychedelics so I guess it isn't so easy to put such an amazing experience into words. I can say without shame that my breakthrough Bufo/5-MeO experiences were the most profound and incredible experiences of my life...experiences that were many things, but "boring" wasn't one of them.
Sure we are all individuals and are wired differently and have varying sensitivities, I get and respect that. Not everyone will have vibe well with 5-MeO...I've spoken to others who can barely remember anything of their experiences (I took me a second session and a fair bit of post session integration to "get the message"), and certainly not everyone will have a deep transcendent or mystical experience using it. For myself though, for the first time in my life, I experienced a state of complete mystical union, and no other psychedelic experiences prior had come close to or could prepare me for such an exalted state of consciousness. Different strokes for different folks.
Id argue that a large enough dose [NN-DMT), right setting, and taken instantaneously can propel you to those white/clear light/absolute infinity/all of existence type experiences (those phrases don't even do an experience like that justice).
. I could be wrong lol
. I experience it as a direct route to death/love/god/infinity/mygrandmothersdaughtersson/blaa, which literally tears down "anything". 5-MeO being boring? In my opinion, this statement doesn't make any sense. It doesn't leave any questions, it eradicates me at all, complete!
