Ultimate Way to Smoke DMT

[nen888]

if there really is some evidence of harm this way it would be good to know, so by all means remove this thread if people feel so strongly about it, and of course it would be foolhardy to permanently use this method, but i don't entirely understand the alarm it has raised..

..you know, Doctor Mantus, i have generally (without much thought) agreed with your latest transmission regarding aluminum foil, which is why i very quickly afterwards found a glass pipe and never looked back..however i sometimes ponder just how potent and apparently not toxic the experiences (about six) were..so, out of interest, i offer the following from wikipedia..

Aluminium foil has a shiny side and a matte side. The shiny side is produced when the aluminium is rolled during the final pass. It is difficult to produce rollers with a gap fine enough to cope with the foil gauge, therefore, for the final pass, two sheets are rolled at the same time, doubling the thickness of the gauge at entry to the rollers. When the sheets are later separated, the inside surface is dull, and the outside surface is shiny. This difference in the finish has led to the perception that favouring a side has an effect when cooking.

..if a lower temperature lighter is used on the foil, it does not burn, and it only takes a very short time for the dmt to vaporize..the foil was only used once
while certainly aluminum is toxic in the body, i can't see how it could enter the body by this method..i.e quick vaporization into a chamber on foil..
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[Indoril_Nerevar]

ultimate

aluminum

wut

 

[Super Radical]

Last I heard smoking anything off aluminum was just a bad idea. It releases toxins.
Also, it sounds like that could easily burn it. There are so many good ways already used to smoke DMT.

 

[autodidactus]

approx, what is the dose your taking with this device? putting the whole tin foil thing aside, you will find that alot of the spice will be forming patterns on the sides of your bottle which means it's a bit of a waste and you'll be taking bigger doses.
I made a Breakthrough waterfall/pisser bong with a 1.5 litre water bottle, a socket, a small hole in the bottom for the piss to evacuate. and noticed this right away. It didn't bother me too much that I was taking probably 60mg hits because it was a ''sure breakthrough'' and just so damn easy to let gravity brew it up then take one big and suprisingly smooth hit

I wonder if you could find some thin glass to replace the foil.

fyi using a socket is just as unhealthy as using foil. most sockets (100% that i've seen) are coated in chrome and it's not a good thing to be heating and inhaling

 

[gibran2]

fyi using a socket is just as unhealthy as using foil. most sockets (100% that i've seen) are coated in chrome and it's not a good thing to be heating and inhaling

Regarding health effects of heating aluminum, chrome, and other metals: the temperatures required to release metal vapors is so high, even for aluminum, that using these materials for smoking devices poses very minimal to no heath risks.

When some metals oxidize, the oxidation might flake off and could be inhaled. This is a different kind of health risk.

You mention chrome – were you aware that the main ingredient that makes stainless steel “stainless” is chrome (chromium)? By your reasoning, every time someone heats up an aluminum or stainless steel frying pan on their stove, they’re exposing themselves to toxic fumes. This simply isn’t the case.

Now if you are a welder, using let’s say arc welding equipment, then you might produce fumes, and if this was your occupation and you were exposed to these fumes all day long 5 days a week, then you would need to be concerned. (In the US, OSHA requires that employers provide protection for workers in such environments.)

 

[jbark]

I think most are in agreement that this "dragon-in-a-cage" :d method is FAR from ultimate, it probably works alright... But honestly - aluminum foil is used in cooking, often over an open flame!! That's its PRIMARY use, so i would be surprised if there were any measurable toxicity (surprised, but not shocked! )

I would be more worried about toxicity from the plastic bottle either from accidental heating or a reaction from the heated vapour).

Anyway OP , don't be discouraged by the responses - most here have a fair amount of experience with varied methods, so tend to chuckle when someone makes "ultimate" claims in their first post. Stick around and read around - you might stumble on some other more ultimate methods! Some of them go up to 11...!

Welcome to the nexus,

JBArk

 

[corpus callosum]

The method that the opening post mentions is, IMO/E very effective but not the ultimate.I agree with Gibran2 and nen888s posts regarding the little true risk from infrequent use of aluminium foil for vaporising and have had some impressive breakthroughs using it.But the GVG and single inhalations of the total dose is the best smoking method Ive seen so far.:shock:

 

[TimeCat]

Not everybody has money at their disposal.he is probably using materials he has handy.if it works then more power to ya.to each his own method.PLUR

 

[ZarathustraMadman]

I only light the foil about 5 seconds, and then throw it away. This method avoids the spice coming into contact with the direct flame. I use the same foil when I bar-b-que. I have a breakthrough with it everytime. I have used this method about 40 times. I am new to DMT and so know no other method so far. Thank you for your considerations. I like this method because I can take the whole amount of smoke all at one time, ensuring a breakthrough, but I will search for other methods. What is also good about this setup is that it is disposable.

 

[ckld]

I must admit that this method seems not good for the health. But since I hear that it's a efficient method I'd like to suggest if theres any possible "upgrade" of this machine. I mean could we exchange the plastic bottle with a one made of glass and the alluminum with coper?

 

[Ford Prefect]

Myth 4: Drinking out of aluminum cans or cooking in aluminum pots and pans can lead to Alzheimer’s disease.

Reality: During the 1960s and 1970s, aluminum emerged as a possible suspect in Alzheimer’s. This suspicion led to concern about exposure to aluminum through everyday sources such as pots and pans, beverage cans, antacids and antiperspirants. Since then, studies have failed to confirm any role for aluminum in causing Alzheimer’s. Experts today focus on other areas of research, and few believe that everyday sources of aluminum pose any threat.

I found this at www.alz.org

I'm not sure if I believe this above statement. I have no way of knowing if it's credible. I've deen lied to before so some hidden face can make a buck. Who has a silver filling? Did you know they release a mercury gas when they are impacted. The ADA dosnt want you to know that. Check out The Beautiful Truth documentry (netflix).

 

[RebornInSmoke]

This is the Ultimate way to smoke DMT.



Materials:

‘Smart Water’ bottle
Aluminum foil
Masking tape
A blank piece of paper or notecard

Sounds pretty disgusting

 

[ZarathustraMadman]

I guess the main point is to vaporize all of the smoke into a large enough chamber all at once, so that all of the smoke can be sucked in at one time, ensuring entities. I guess I will need to find different materials, though I see no threat for one time use.

 

[ckld]

think I made it, a glass bottle with the bottom cut off and a coper sheet about 0.5 to 1mm thick. Maby I test it in weekend and post some comment.

 

[nen888]

..i agree with TimeCat..

Not everybody has money at their disposal.he is probably using materials he has handy.if it works then more power to ya.to each his own method.PLUR

..surely there is a cheaper 'ultimate' way than $99 for a GVG..?
..the aluminum foil allows the material to vaporize in 5-10 seconds..the entire dose can be gazed at in the chamber and inhaled in 1 second..the copper mentioned in the previous post is much thicker..
one would be much more likely to absorb toxins by either cooking food wrapped in foil (a common practice, never bothered me) or by drinking out of long term stored plastic bottles (with plastic particles contaminating the liquid) ..only the very uncoordinated could burn the plastic (and still inhale!)
..a glass chamber is obviously to be preferred, but a very thin and unlikely to burn material like foil has some advantages..

 

[tony]

..only the very uncoordinated could burn the plastic (and still inhale!)

You obviously haven't smoked any of the shitty hash that floats around the UK :lol: That stuff was always laced with plastic and it never stopped anyone inhaling, lol.

But yeah, I agree. I see no problem with using tin foil, haven't seen any real evidence of it being particularly harmful.

 

[autodidactus]

fyi using a socket is just as unhealthy as using foil. most sockets (100% that i've seen) are coated in chrome and it's not a good thing to be heating and inhaling

Regarding health effects of heating aluminum, chrome, and other metals: the temperatures required to release metal vapors is so high, even for aluminum, that using these materials for smoking devices poses very minimal to no heath risks.

When some metals oxidize, the oxidation might flake off and could be inhaled. This is a different kind of health risk.

You mention chrome – were you aware that the main ingredient that makes stainless steel “stainless” is chrome (chromium)? By your reasoning, every time someone heats up an aluminum or stainless steel frying pan on their stove, they’re exposing themselves to toxic fumes. This simply isn’t the case.

Now if you are a welder, using let’s say arc welding equipment, then you might produce fumes, and if this was your occupation and you were exposed to these fumes all day long 5 days a week, then you would need to be concerned. (In the US, OSHA requires that employers provide protection for workers in such environments.)

yea you're probably right but why does smoking out of those things have a metallic taste? and where did this "smoking with aluminum foil causes alzheimers" thing come from?

 

[ISeekKnowledge]

My room mate and I have a glass vapor genie and it works great!!! But my favorite method is my 800 dollar hbg water pipe, with 16 arm perc, 6 arm diffuser, and skillet attachment. Pretty much you get it all it two rips out the pipe and its not quite as harsh.

Too hyperspace and beyond you gooooo1

 

[ISeekKnowledge]

My room mate and I have a glass vapor genie and it works great!!! But my favorite method is my 800 dollar hbg water pipe, with 16 arm perc, 6 arm diffuser, and skillet attachment. Pretty much you get it all it two rips out the pipe and its not quite as harsh.

Too hyperspace and beyond you gooooo1

 

[Rustt]

Some of them go up to 11...!

I want to go up to 11!

Thurgood Jenkins: The MacGyver smoker is a very handy guy to have around, especially when it comes to reefer.
McGayver Friend: Hey, man, we're out of papers.
McGayver Smoker: All right. Then get me a toilet paper roll, a corkscrew and some tin foil.
McGayver Friend: We don't have a corkscrew.
McGayver Smoker: All right. Then get me an avocado, an ice pick and my snorkel.
McGayver Smoker: [Friend looks at him funny] Trust me, bro. I've made bongs with less! Hurry up!!