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Unintentionally disrespected the molecule

Jamie01 said:
I’m not sure tbh. I’m a fairly anxious person as it is and get pretty stressed out and certainly that inhibits my ability to fully let go.

Often the first hit is just a small one to deal with the crap in my head and I have to sit there processing energy until I can go deeper otherwise it’s a big panic mess of psychic energy.
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So its a myth when ppl say the bigger dose prevents the option of mentally trying to let go?
 
The problem was that she was not addressing the issue correctly and God presented it for her to address. The intention is always love first with God and thus any medicine work. A child that has reached a disrespectful state needs a parent to get itself in alignment to better address what boundaries must be set and held solid. It's clear that the medicine spoke and the interaction was a call for help.

Remember every time as a parent we must deal with something with our kid, we must first solve it within and thus model being the light.

I suggest you have the medicine heal the wound that allowed such a misalignment to happen in the family and consider sitting and going venus kriya as a family if real work is needed to mend the family.

Remember this lesson and everytime the need to help shows up, you will not put the weapon of medicine in front of the love a child, something that sounds like more than a single issue with this post.

Blessings on the strong growth from this <3

The Second Primary

Mother and father is the name of God on every child’s lips

And every Child’s name on a parents



Children only need three things

The love we got

The love we didn’t get

And

The attention they need,

Through this all things are healed
 
Usually if I am introducing a new initiate to the molecule, I abstain. I've found that the two things are very separate. My own time for my experiences is private. When I'm responsible for someone else's experience, then I have a job to do, sober.
 
Interestingly it seems that this position varies across practices. There are some where the guide/facilitator/shaman takes some amount in order to be aligned with the journeyer. Then there are some practices in some traditions where it is only the shaman that takes anything in order to heal others.

One love
 
I think maybe the difference is that I am not a shaman. My attempts to partake alongside a first time have been underwhelming everytime. I think it is psychological within me. Responsibility for the event outweighs the desire to journey
 
premeditated said:
But any other substance you take will always work no matter what. Strength may vary but it's not like someone smokes meth and doesn't feel anything due to internal or external force. Experience may suck but it's going to work. 😆
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I certainly haven't tried them all, but DMT is unlike any other substance I take.

THC makes music nice and dims my intellect so I'm happier and more easily impressed by my own nonsense.
MDMA makes me calm and patient.
2C-B makes me sensual.
ketamine makes me meditative.
NOS is unpredictable, sometimes it shows me an energy wall of basic polygons, sometimes it shows me a 10 second movie clip perfect for my screenplay.
LSD makes the carpet into Persian rugs and the walls into intricate mosaics.
etc. etc.
DMT, though, opens up a door I didn't know existed. it brings light into a place that has only ever known darkness. and, if strong enough, it entirely prevents my open eyes from seeing what is right in front of me and all around me, even though I can feel it still. it shows me that there's a world my mind has never been able to see before, but which it can see as clearly as our world, under the right conditions, and that that world can pervades through me, and can effortlessly play with anything it wants to in this world (a limp tapestry comes to life as if a strong wind has picked it up or invisible hands dance with it, as though the wall it's on is only an open window, as though things here are only as real as they want to let them be). DMT introduces me to other worlds and other forms of life that seem to be more magnificent and intelligent than perhaps I ever could be! and it leaves me completely calm, sober, and lucid, to deal with it as you would deal with being handed a VR headset for a Zoom call across the galaxy, showing me that my mind can see just like my eyes can (which they never could before) and entirely shattering my perception of what my eyes are capable of seeing...happening through me, like a colorblind person suddenly able to see color, no new insight or skill or understanding just an instant upgrade of the faculties bestowed on you.
...Like Terence McKenna said, I'm glad this stuff isn't actually accessible by breathwork or meditation or some other practice people promise works magic--it's too magical, too sacred, it's not a world I want to be stumbling into unprepared like a muddy pig shrieking through a church service. There are probably times it shouldn't work, or people it shouldn't work for (younger me, for sure!). Given how tremendous their world is, I think it seems appropriate to trust their judgement over ours. I think we're mostly closed up in this realm for now for a very good reason. Maybe they need to be protected from us, and maybe some of us need to be protected from it. It's so bizarre trying to plan the rest of my week knowing some kind of interdimensional Truman Show has been going on this whole time and nobody ever talks about it.
 
Jamie01 said:
I have no idea really what any other person experiences with DMT. At this point I’m kinda into figuring out my own way and then just repeating.
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Yeah me too. I've erased the thought of breakthrough. I'm just doing doses according to how I feel and enjoying it. Also not listening to anymore negative trip reports
 
weirdoigo said:
I certainly haven't tried them all, but DMT is unlike any other substance I take.

THC makes music nice and dims my intellect so I'm happier and more easily impressed by my own nonsense.
MDMA makes me calm and patient.
2C-B makes me sensual.
ketamine makes me meditative.
NOS is unpredictable, sometimes it shows me an energy wall of basic polygons, sometimes it shows me a 10 second movie clip perfect for my screenplay.
LSD makes the carpet into Persian rugs and the walls into intricate mosaics.
etc. etc.
DMT, though, opens up a door I didn't know existed. it brings light into a place that has only ever known darkness. and, if strong enough, it entirely prevents my open eyes from seeing what is right in front of me and all around me, even though I can feel it still. it shows me that there's a world my mind has never been able to see before, but which it can see as clearly as our world, under the right conditions, and that that world can pervades through me, and can effortlessly play with anything it wants to in this world (a limp tapestry comes to life as if a strong wind has picked it up or invisible hands dance with it, as though the wall it's on is only an open window, as though things here are only as real as they want to let them be). DMT introduces me to other worlds and other forms of life that seem to be more magnificent and intelligent than perhaps I ever could be! and it leaves me completely calm, sober, and lucid, to deal with it as you would deal with being handed a VR headset for a Zoom call across the galaxy, showing me that my mind can see just like my eyes can (which they never could before) and entirely shattering my perception of what my eyes are capable of seeing...happening through me, like a colorblind person suddenly able to see color, no new insight or skill or understanding just an instant upgrade of the faculties bestowed on you.
...Like Terence McKenna said, I'm glad this stuff isn't actually accessible by breathwork or meditation or some other practice people promise works magic--it's too magical, too sacred, it's not a world I want to be stumbling into unprepared like a muddy pig shrieking through a church service. There are probably times it shouldn't work, or people it shouldn't work for (younger me, for sure!). Given how tremendous their world is, I think it seems appropriate to trust their judgement over ours. I think we're mostly closed up in this realm for now for a very good reason. Maybe they need to be protected from us, and maybe some of us need to be protected from it. It's so bizarre trying to plan the rest of my week knowing some kind of interdimensional Truman Show has been going on this whole time and nobody ever talks about it.
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Beautifully said. 👏 👏 👏. I'm still a rookie and every experience is more alien, complex, beautiful etc. I'm infatuated with the molecule...don't mistake that as addicted. Lol. It's just beyond imagination. I just wish it was like the early days of thc with your friends...shared experiences. It really sucks we can't see each other's experiences..only talk about them which doesn't do it justice. Majority of my time I'm still in my body slightly but everything I see is affecting me physically. Like I can feel hot spots on my chakras. And sometimes they will play with my 3rd eye like it's a nob turning the reality stations. So groovy. Ever experience anything physical like that? And how often do you indulge?
 
Voidmatrix said:
Perhaps the obsession with many breakthroughs is as needless as colonizing Mars; there's plenty to work on right here 🤣

One love
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Right… the psychedelic space has already been co-opted by tech-bros and their followers - no need to emulate their earth-abandoning mentality…
 
premeditated said:
sometimes they will play with my 3rd eye like it's a nob turning the reality stations. So groovy. Ever experience anything physical like that? And how often do you indulge?
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I haven't indulged much. it's hard to get here; even getting bark through biosecurity is a gamble that my finances can't risk again. but I'm planning to do more with what I have left now that I've secured and tested harmalas successfully (I felt like my visits were encouraging, fascinating and humbling, but not so much insightful or productive because there was simply no time to explore anything, like taking a taxi through NYC and straight back to the airport--incredible sights, but no depth or anything I can bring back with me.

I've done a good bit more mushrooms than most people in the years since I first had some spice to dabble with, enough that I realized I can get a kind of through-the-veil contact where I see the realms and also faintly but distinctively hear their activity. but there was one intense blast off I had a couple months ago where I realized that you really are 'breaking through the veil', it's not just crystal clear graphics and surround sound, but you really are there and able to get fully tactile experiences. this one, it felt as if my soul's body, or whatever you call your avatar/physical presence in the realms, was made out of pixels or something, like a mosaic or jigsaw puzzle, and they were able to pick and pluck and move pieces around. one of the entities touched my head (I wonder if they were checking out my contact lens or something lol or just messing with my brain) I felt one of these pieces in my mouth at one point, and I know I'd know the feeling if it happens again, but it was unlike anything on earth.
 
weirdoigo said:
I haven't indulged much. it's hard to get here; even getting bark through biosecurity is a gamble that my finances can't risk again. but I'm planning to do more with what I have left now that I've secured and tested harmalas successfully (I felt like my visits were encouraging, fascinating and humbling, but not so much insightful or productive because there was simply no time to explore anything, like taking a taxi through NYC and straight back to the airport--incredible sights, but no depth or anything I can bring back with me.

I've done a good bit more mushrooms than most people in the years since I first had some spice to dabble with, enough that I realized I can get a kind of through-the-veil contact where I see the realms and also faintly but distinctively hear their activity. but there was one intense blast off I had a couple months ago where I realized that you really are 'breaking through the veil', it's not just crystal clear graphics and surround sound, but you really are there and able to get fully tactile experiences. this one, it felt as if my soul's body, or whatever you call your avatar/physical presence in the realms, was made out of pixels or something, like a mosaic or jigsaw puzzle, and they were able to pick and pluck and move pieces around. one of the entities touched my head (I wonder if they were checking out my contact lens or something lol or just messing with my brain) I felt one of these pieces in my mouth at one point, and I know I'd know the feeling if it happens again, but it was unlike anything on earth.
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That's beyond peculiar. Wow. Man I wish we could have shared experiences. It's just not fair to have these great mysteries and we can barely explain it
 
premeditated said:
That's beyond peculiar. Wow. Man I wish we could have shared experiences. It's just not fair to have these great mysteries and we can barely explain it
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at this point, I really wouldn't be surprised if we could, provided we knew how.


I hope, at least, they're doing a bit like Cube Zero with the dream-recorder technology, and saving all our experiential data to their cloud so others can experience it in another life if consent is given to show others what a given experience was, LOL.
 
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