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Exp. Report Vaporhuasca: HyperCats, Butterfly Women, HyperCity and Reassurance about Death

Experience report

Pandora

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This experience involved ingesting 129 mgs of full spectrum harmala HCl then about an hour later taking a bunch of hits off of my weak vape, waiting a few minutes then taking a bunch more.I had planned on loading a dose in my GVG, but I took the GVG out of storage and was crushed to find it broken. I have no idea what happened, but clearly the GVG was not meant to be today.

It began with a dark background with a colorful and changing, flower-like pattern, all kinds of things popping into my head and my actively working to just let all of them go. It was getting a bit hectic and I was even having a few hyper self criticism moments but again reminded myself to let it all go and all of a sudden I realized I was up near a wall and embedded in this wall were bejeweled hypercats made out of multi colored geometry and flowers. They were beautiful and they looked SUPER welcoming.

I know folks think cats’ faces are inexpressive and there are even posters naming all the emotions and each panel is the same image of a cat’s face. But I work with cats. I have three of my own and many days all I do is visit other folks’ cats. You can read a cat’s mood/thoughts by observing a combination of its’ face AND body language. It was this combination of the soft faces (even though made out of geometry) and the ever changing flower patterns on the body that made me feel like these cats wanted me to be there.

At this point, the self-criticism and the flayed, racing thoughts just dissolved into nothing. I think this is when the real letting go began.

I enjoyed the ever changing hyper-bedazzled cats with bodies made out of colorful flowers but then they kind of moved aside and I was in a larger, dark space, suspended/floating. In front of me were gorgeous gigantic butterfly women. They had amazing, irridescent blue, green and purple wings and hourglass young feminine bodies. They were floating along, barely needing their wings, but still showing the wings off by extending them.

This then opened up into a much larger, city-like space. But this space was made out of spinning and odd pastel colors and structures that kept arcing and changing. I got the distinct sense of “hyperspace preschool” from it.

As soon as I had that thought I found myself in a more “adult” downtown kind of hyperspatial cityscape.

The entire time with all these patterns, spaces and rooms there were spinning marquis of alien language and all kind of information packed visible curly cues everywhere.

The city felt numinous. The buildings were flashing and changing, in rainbow colors. The buildings were polished and had a bright inner light emerging from them. With these buildings each structure had a lot of storeys, making them into kinds of skyscrapers. Each level/story was made up of a primary color. Each unit was square shaped and in their entirety were the color of the level. Dividing each level horzontally and each unit vertically were white dividing lines. The “streets” below these buildings were not laid out in criss-cross square/rectangle patterns like normal city streets. Every “street” was sinusoidal, so these skyscrapers appeared in arcing, curving, twisting patterns.

I floated among these ever changing, tightly packed towers for a moment and then one literally split down vertically from its’ top and opened itself up. Inside was a central cylinder which had lots of ever changing spirals inside of it that appeared to be some sort of transportation system. Outside the central cylinder was the opened up building There were many bridges extending and spiraling into and out of the central cylinder. I do not recall seeing entities but it seemed like an extremely busy place.

My skin was being touched and brushed by tactile hallucinations as I had not lost touch with my body. I was wearing long, close fitting sleeves which really helped. The body load helped me to just hold still and let it happen. I felt too heavy to move.

Eventually I floated downwards into a kind of side or basement room that was its’ own contained space. I could see the base of the cylinder here. The colors were pinks, yellows, greens and blues and each colorful, morbid object in the room was flashing, kind of bright dim, bright dim.

Stacking up against all the walls as I watched were ever larger and growing stacks of human skulls and coffins. The skulls and coffins comformed to the color scheme of the space. There was an odd thought telepathically inserted into my head which was, “Be easy. There is plenty of space in hyperspace for the dead.”

After a short while this room kind of dissolved and I was floating in space watching strips filled with alien language spinning and touching in such a way that they spiraled out and formed spinning disks. Then these disks started forming layers. I was floating between a top disk and a bottom one. The surface of these disks had other sinuous patterns forming on them that were very flower like.

At this point, the distinct visions pretty much ended and I felt it was a good idea to not get greedy and stop there.

This day went better than expected and this was a great return to vaporhuasca. I sincerely want to start titrating up the harmala dose and get back to something at allows me to measure a crystal dose.

The immediate aftermath has been a feeling I associate with both harmalas and DMT. A kind of weightiness to my soul. My core feels heavy but in a VERY good way. I feel centered within my body. My mind is calm and not filled with intrusive (or even related to my small business) thoughts. I am not motivated to get busy. Happy to chill with my cats and just let things gel for awhile.

I am very grateful that this day worked even after the initial roadblock. Perhaps the GVG wasn’t meant to be but I think the DMT was meant to be.

Thanks for reading, :D
 
RIP to your GVG, it had a really good run.

I'm constantly impressed with your recall and ability to translate/share your experiences so eloquently. Your reports are always gold standard. Thanks for sharing. (y)
 
This experience involved ingesting 129 mgs of full spectrum harmala HCl then about an hour later taking a bunch of hits off of my weak vape, waiting a few minutes then taking a bunch more.I had planned on loading a dose in my GVG, but I took the GVG out of storage and was crushed to find it broken. I have no idea what happened, but clearly the GVG was not meant to be today.

It began with a dark background with a colorful and changing, flower-like pattern, all kinds of things popping into my head and my actively working to just let all of them go. It was getting a bit hectic and I was even having a few hyper self criticism moments but again reminded myself to let it all go and all of a sudden I realized I was up near a wall and embedded in this wall were bejeweled hypercats made out of multi colored geometry and flowers. They were beautiful and they looked SUPER welcoming.

I know folks think cats’ faces are inexpressive and there are even posters naming all the emotions and each panel is the same image of a cat’s face. But I work with cats. I have three of my own and many days all I do is visit other folks’ cats. You can read a cat’s mood/thoughts by observing a combination of its’ face AND body language. It was this combination of the soft faces (even though made out of geometry) and the ever changing flower patterns on the body that made me feel like these cats wanted me to be there.

At this point, the self-criticism and the flayed, racing thoughts just dissolved into nothing. I think this is when the real letting go began.

I enjoyed the ever changing hyper-bedazzled cats with bodies made out of colorful flowers but then they kind of moved aside and I was in a larger, dark space, suspended/floating. In front of me were gorgeous gigantic butterfly women. They had amazing, irridescent blue, green and purple wings and hourglass young feminine bodies. They were floating along, barely needing their wings, but still showing the wings off by extending them.

This then opened up into a much larger, city-like space. But this space was made out of spinning and odd pastel colors and structures that kept arcing and changing. I got the distinct sense of “hyperspace preschool” from it.

As soon as I had that thought I found myself in a more “adult” downtown kind of hyperspatial cityscape.

The entire time with all these patterns, spaces and rooms there were spinning marquis of alien language and all kind of information packed visible curly cues everywhere.

The city felt numinous. The buildings were flashing and changing, in rainbow colors. The buildings were polished and had a bright inner light emerging from them. With these buildings each structure had a lot of storeys, making them into kinds of skyscrapers. Each level/story was made up of a primary color. Each unit was square shaped and in their entirety were the color of the level. Dividing each level horzontally and each unit vertically were white dividing lines. The “streets” below these buildings were not laid out in criss-cross square/rectangle patterns like normal city streets. Every “street” was sinusoidal, so these skyscrapers appeared in arcing, curving, twisting patterns.

I floated among these ever changing, tightly packed towers for a moment and then one literally split down vertically from its’ top and opened itself up. Inside was a central cylinder which had lots of ever changing spirals inside of it that appeared to be some sort of transportation system. Outside the central cylinder was the opened up building There were many bridges extending and spiraling into and out of the central cylinder. I do not recall seeing entities but it seemed like an extremely busy place.

My skin was being touched and brushed by tactile hallucinations as I had not lost touch with my body. I was wearing long, close fitting sleeves which really helped. The body load helped me to just hold still and let it happen. I felt too heavy to move.

Eventually I floated downwards into a kind of side or basement room that was its’ own contained space. I could see the base of the cylinder here. The colors were pinks, yellows, greens and blues and each colorful, morbid object in the room was flashing, kind of bright dim, bright dim.

Stacking up against all the walls as I watched were ever larger and growing stacks of human skulls and coffins. The skulls and coffins comformed to the color scheme of the space. There was an odd thought telepathically inserted into my head which was, “Be easy. There is plenty of space in hyperspace for the dead.”

After a short while this room kind of dissolved and I was floating in space watching strips filled with alien language spinning and touching in such a way that they spiraled out and formed spinning disks. Then these disks started forming layers. I was floating between a top disk and a bottom one. The surface of these disks had other sinuous patterns forming on them that were very flower like.

At this point, the distinct visions pretty much ended and I felt it was a good idea to not get greedy and stop there.

This day went better than expected and this was a great return to vaporhuasca. I sincerely want to start titrating up the harmala dose and get back to something at allows me to measure a crystal dose.

The immediate aftermath has been a feeling I associate with both harmalas and DMT. A kind of weightiness to my soul. My core feels heavy but in a VERY good way. I feel centered within my body. My mind is calm and not filled with intrusive (or even related to my small business) thoughts. I am not motivated to get busy. Happy to chill with my cats and just let things gel for awhile.

I am very grateful that this day worked even after the initial roadblock. Perhaps the GVG wasn’t meant to be but I think the DMT was meant to be.

Thanks for reading, :D
I would concur this is astonishingly detailed recall for the experience, no doubt developed over years of familiarity with these states wherebye one is able to learn to bring back more into baseline consciousness.

My question is, what do you make of this? Do you or have you come to any conclusions regarding the meaning of your experiences and what purposes they serve or may be pointing to?
 
Thank you so much for reading it. Yes, I am very experienced with the DMT state and have a good technique for remembering my experiences.

What does it mean? Difficult to be sure, but it is's all very reassuring. It's like a warm welcome back. I seem to be receiving some semi-conscious lessons on letting stuff go in my life that I cannot change/affect. If so this is welcome as I always have work to do there.

And nice to get the messages that the dead have room to grow so to speak, :).

This experience had cats, immense beauty and complexity and a slightly morbid component. It really was me who was hosting the hyperspatial party . . . .
 
What does it mean? Difficult to be sure, but it is's all very reassuring. It's like a warm welcome back. I seem to be receiving some semi-conscious lessons on letting stuff go in my life that I cannot change/affect. If so this is welcome as I always have work to do there.
Yes, I find that 'vaporhuasca' which is ny preferred roa (or rather rue tea followed by changa or enhanced leaf) is quite different than straight DMT and is its own domain so to speak.

And nice to get the messages that the dead have room to grow so to speak, :).
This sounds similar to the experience sometimes encountered on DMT, that it can show one a place where 'souls' go after they die or between births

This experience had cats, immense beauty and complexity and a slightly morbid component. It really was me who was hosting the hyperspatial party . . . .
Or perhaps whatever was hosting has deep familiarity with you and was presenting the format in a most agreeable way to you...or perhaps ultimately at the deepest level there isn't such distinction between us and it
 
Wow sounds like a great time, first question is how much time did this take to unfold? I have had a few vaporhuasca experiences and I might go for 2 -3 hours adding in more as needed. Thank you for posting.
 
Thank you that sounds more like what I would expect. When you do decide to take an maoi do you let the medicine guide how long you go?
Y
 
I would need to take a heavier dose to make it work longer. For me it's never gone more than 16 mins because I low dose the MAOI. I am hoping to slowly titrate up, as mentioned to see if the duration might increase.

And yes indeed, I do not fight the trance. Nor do I try to return to it when it has broken. Pharma has come in waves where I could get back after a trough of effects but for me vaporhuasca works well once UNLESS I smoalk moar DMT. Usually the experience is profound/deep enough that I feel no need to do any more. Also I don't want to get greedy. When I get greedy is when I invite a beat down.

And to be honest I've done so much DMT . . . . I keep expecting lockout, :(. But, for some reason, the entities still appear and are full of love and information, :D.
 
loove it! i understand about the fear of lockout.. i have been on an extended hiatus from the spice in hopes of recapturing some of the magic from my earliest ventures into hyperspace myself.
 
I would need to take a heavier dose to make it work longer. For me it's never gone more than 16 mins because I low dose the MAOI. I am hoping to slowly titrate up, as mentioned to see if the duration might increase.
I would recommend going heavier on the MAOI's first as I can confirm duration is significantly extended, my experiences are usually in the range of a good 30-40 mins and sometimes even a bit longer. You also need less DMT from what I have observed to go far.

And yes indeed, I do not fight the trance. Nor do I try to return to it when it has broken. Pharma has come in waves where I could get back after a trough of effects but for me vaporhuasca works well once UNLESS I smoalk moar DMT. Usually the experience is profound/deep enough that I feel no need to do any more. Also I don't want to get greedy. When I get greedy is when I invite a beat down.
I can relate to this also. Harmalas are purifying and profound and I seldom feel the urge to have another pull once the DMT is in the system. I hear echoes of thoughts of people from smoking straight DMT saying "take another pull to breakthrough" and I'm like "I'm good, this is plenty and there is much to learn here", I dont need to launch myself further for the sake of it.
 
And yes indeed, I do not fight the trance. Nor do I try to return to it when it has broken. Pharma has come in waves where I could get back after a trough of effects but for me vaporhuasca works well once UNLESS I smoalk moar DMT. Usually the experience is profound/deep enough that I feel no need to do any more. Also I don't want to get greedy. When I get greedy is when I invite a beat down.
Thank you for sharing, Greedy is an interesting term that I have not thought about in this perspective. I did get inspired and went for 3 hours last night, I view the altered state as like a timeshare you can go back to when you want. that has helped me stop turning my intentions into expectations.
Y
 
I remember you said this was worthy of a proper tripod report but just now noticed you actually posted this. I find it hard to articulate and have a sense of continuity when examining my trips. This was a very good read. Thank you for sharing.
 
Sky Motion,

Welcome back. Thank you so much for reading.

I still have chronic pain but it is well managed with a regimen of heavy daily walking, anti-inflammatory supplements like Tumeric, NAC and cannabis. I try not to use things like Advil or Tylenol.

Life is harder than before. My husband passed and I am scrambling to make a small business survive. But the physical pain is managed, not really an issue, as long as I keep moving/exercising. There are still a lot of blessings in my life. And I hope you can say the same for yours also, :D.
 
Pumpy,

Thank you so much for reading it and I'm so glad you enjoyed it.

I recommend vaporhuasca to anyone who is not taking meds that say MAOI's are contraindicated, i.e. for anyone who is safe to do MAOI's.

I have not done it very many times but I find it very enjoyable and as mentioned I am very much looking forward to slowly upping my harmala dose to see if I can extend the duration.
 
Sky Motion,

Welcome back. Thank you so much for reading.

I still have chronic pain but it is well managed with a regimen of heavy daily walking, anti-inflammatory supplements like Tumeric, NAC and cannabis. I try not to use things like Advil or Tylenol.

Life is harder than before. My husband passed and I am scrambling to make a small business survive. But the physical pain is managed, not really an issue, as long as I keep moving/exercising. There are still a lot of blessings in my life. And I hope you can say the same for yours also, :D.
Wow I need to get on the NAC train! I've been detoxing from 4 years of valium as well as opiate abuse for the pain. It's been really difficult, only those with Chronic Pain know how it takes our life away.

I am SO sorry to hear about your husband passing. :( no words.

Shoot me ur biz! Maybe I can support :)
 
Sky Motion,

It is just a local cat sitting, dog walking and house sitting business. I have a great flyer and get stamps very cheap off of eBay so I do mailings to homes in targeting zip codes.

I could use some help coming up with a Logo and a website but I am not in a good position to pay much.

Perhaps things will improve as I continue to work hard.

And yessir, NAC + tumeric 1x/day has made it so that my painful blown up pinky knuckle no longer bothers me. Amazing.
 

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