Vinegar vs citric acid ?

[Easykeen]

Hi what may be better -vinegar or citric acid When using A/B for acacias ( using some nice floribundas trunk brk) shaggy jungle similar tek

 

[leratiomyces]

Either or, shouldn't matter.
Anecdotally, there were greater emulsions when using citric.
But there may have been other factors at play, so I can't blame citric definitively.

Let us know how you go with floribunda.

 

[fathomlessness]

I always use vinegar fo rease of use an cost. I always use 1:4 up to 1:7 parts vinegar:water. Make sure there is enough vinegar otherwise there wont be enough acetic acid to bind to the dmt to form dmt-acetate. pH is always so consistent with vinegar and there is no danger of too low a pH destroying your dmt (unlike hydrochloric acid).

 

[kckoll]

I always use vinegar fo rease of use an cost. I always use 1:4 up to 1:7 parts vinegar:water. Make sure there is enough vinegar otherwise there wont be enough acetic acid to bind to the dmt to form dmt-acetate. pH is always so consistent with vinegar and there is no danger of too low a pH destroying your dmt (unlike hydrochloric acid).

Hey thanks for the answer. I have a question. I did my last extraction, and did my acid cook using phosphoric acid and my pH was getting down to like in the 2 range. I didn't know if that was gonna be bad. Do you have an explanation of what ph the cook should be at and why? Thanks in advance!

 

[Varallo]

Alright since the last person before you hasn’t been seen since a few months I will help you out, as a guide to determine the amount of acid needed to convert 1 gram of dmt freebase to for example the acetate salt, you would need approximately 6.4 mL of 5% vinegar for phosphoric acid it would be something like half a ml per gram. So if you’re going to extract say a 100 grams of mimosa bark you can expect at most 3 percent, so to dissolve all the dmt in that amount of bark you would need roughly 20 ml of vinegar.

In practice a splash would suffice

 

[kckoll]

Alright since the last person before you hasn’t been seen since a few months I will help you out, as a guide to determine the amount of acid needed to convert 1 gram of dmt freebase to for example the acetate salt, you would need approximately 6.4 mL of 5% vinegar for phosphoric acid it would be something like half a ml per gram. So if you’re going to extract say a 100 grams of mimosa bark you can expect at most 3 percent, so to dissolve all the dmt in that amount of bark you would need roughly 20 ml of vinegar.

In practice a splash would suffice

Awesome. Thank u!