was that breakthrough??

[giver of will]

i hit probably what was 20-30 mgs of spice out of my VG. I don't remember how many hits I took, I think it was just one. I held it in and I felt like my whole body was about to explode. next thing i know...

it was like i completely got my head spun out by what seemed to be my mom and dad from the afterlife, my mom was scolding me very seriously making it seem as though i seriously fucked up and i remember my dad agreeing in the background. it was almost like she put my brain on autopilot and i could not control a single thought. i felt like she was seriously telling me i am fucking up my life and as "when i shall cease to be" played (shpongle- when shall i be free) in the background she was like WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS?! I remember her saying, "YOUR SO FUCKED UP YOU PROBABLY THINK ROB (my roommate) IS IN YOUR BATHROOM RIGHT NOW! (my bathroom is connected to my bedroom) I remember looking in there and seriously thought my roommate was hiding in there.

i remember thinking, "did i breakthrough?" only for a momemnt before my mom overwhelmed me with a million other thoughts telling me that i never need to do this drug again.

I started to come out of that part of it thinking...was that my ego holding on to what was left of it before i broke through? and the trip began to encourage me to think about that i feel like.

i just cant figure it out. was that a true mother like entity or was that pure hallucination of my ego holding on for dear life before i broke through? because i could still see my room but my thoughts were all over the place, i feel like i really didnt enter another "realm" or what have you.

all i feel about that trip now is that i completely got my ass spanked by my "next" mother.

 

[giver of will]

I will add that I have had a very similar experience last year, I went to this room with my mom and my dad from the afterlife but last time my mom was crying, it always seems to be my mom that grabs my attention.... I remember wanting to flush my dmt down the toilet after that trip. But about 3 days after that I managed to actually break through. This trip was a lot like that trip but a lot stronger, It still puzzles me to this day. Are my parents actually entities or are they just safeguards made up by my subconscious to keep me from breakthrough?

 

[Citta]

Here is a general rule:

If you ask yourself whether or not you broke through, you probably did not break through. Once you have a breakthrough, there is no doubt.

 

[Electric Kool-Aid]

Some might guess these are puzzles to figure out about your life or others around you.
Maybe when going in to the trip, state why you are there, or what you want to see.

I am not very experienced at normal doses though. Today I did a 16mg of spice in a machine. Got colours and patterns. But I also got the feeling I had the joke played on me again. Like this is just a big joke (dmt). But then I will have to up the dose to get further.

 

[TheFly]

I've been told and seem to read about peoples experiences being that everyone has different breakthrough dosages and everyone’s break through is different.

My break through started of me experiencing myself staring at my self while on the computer(in the future, thinking its the present). Once I was shown that even if It seems real doesn’t mean its true after this its a blur(don't remember much now) and I'm warping through a light tunnel following only what I can describe as a photon of light I might add that I some how assume or acknowledge that I am warping photon in a familiar place in proximity of my computer all the way to the main power station at this point I reach near infinity miles per hour at which point I break through the warp tunnel( I use to remember what happens during this particular break through but after a year I completely forgot as It felt as if I was DEEP into what ever it was) after the breakthrough happens I remember slowing down in speed and the tunnel slowed down and which this point I remembered my body(meaning I forgot my body during this whole experience but I could hear my self breathing the whole time so it was comforting both ways at the same time -- hard to explain) once I remembered my body I started analysing again, for instance I checked to make sure I could move my body... Check!... Then i checked if i could see... Opened my eyes and I see the whole room in shimmering glory.. Check! Eyes work... I closed my eyes and fell back into that tunnel(but still slowing down) with my analytical nature I thought I could control things so I said to my self "Try turning this way or that way" and then it feels as though I was trying to be shown that I'm not allowed to control anything in the way i was attempting any ways. This all happened in a matter of two minutes.

Too Long didn't read?
I feel that the best way to achieve a break through is to forget about everything forget about breakthroughs, for get about your life worries, forget about everything, just breath very calmly and slowly and don't think about anything but your breath once you feel calm take your hit(s) and just relax. I've never been able to breakthrough on my own, I've always needed someone to hold the pipe for me as I toke as I'm afraid to burn myself subconsciously. Good luck

 

[Sky Motion]

Seems like you experienced a piece of your mothers conscious thoughts/energy..but who knows.

 

[Pscientist]

Some might guess these are puzzles to figure out about your life or others around you.
Maybe when going in to the trip, state why you are there, or what you want to see.

I am not very experienced at normal doses though. Today I did a 16mg of spice in a machine. Got colours and patterns. But I also got the feeling I had the joke played on me again. Like this is just a big joke (dmt). But then I will have to up the dose to get further.

I remember during an experience I was going pretty hard and I was like "this is the most beautiful epic experience of life, I could do without the sweaty hands though" and it felt like everything came grinding to a halt, and I remember thinking "it was just a joke" and I remember an entity or voice saying I'll show you the joke, and I was compelled to keep dosing resulting in my first breakthrough, the joke was this reality as far as I can gather. Material reality is a joke to hyperspace/light reality.:shock:

 

[Guyomech]

My guess is that it's in your head, and the presence of your parents is a graphic expression of some kind of guilt/resentment/acceptance issue you may be holding onto. I know that all sounds very Freudian but it seems pretty clearcut. Does this exchange with them echo actual experiences you had with them while they were alive? Guilt is a powerful thing and can linger for a lifetime if you don't accept yourself for who you are and move on. (I know, easier said than done).

I would not classify that as a breakthrough- the true breakthrough places tend to be totally alien compared to your Earthside life.