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Was your first DMT trip a test?

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toltecatl

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I had my first experience with this substance about 3 weeks ago. I have a mg scale, but it's not very reliable at such small quantities so my dose was not weighed. I put some caapi at the bottom of the bowl, some DMT on top of that, followed by more caapi. The bowl was stuffed full. It was in a small glass bong with no water. I hit the bowl repeatedly until it was cashed, trying not to breathe in any smoke. I would alternate from filling the chamber with smoke and covering the top of the bong till there was nothing left in the bowl. At this point I inhaled the entire contents of the bong. I was immediately overwhelmed with a high pitched ringing that grew more and more intense. My vision began to vibrate and I had no choice but to lay out on the couch and close my eyes. I immediately felt the presence of several other entities surrounding me. About 15 seconds in they entities began to show themselves. They were recognized as "Grey's". There was 4-5 of them surrounding me. There was a light above them and I felt like I was lying on an examining table as they inspected me. I could hear their thoughts and they were debating with one another whether I was worthy of such an experience or just another stupid druggie invading their world. I could not communicate with them, but had the feeling they knew what was happening in my head. They debated amongst themselves until finally it was like someone flipped a switch and sent me spiraling down into hell. I could feel my body falling rapidly as if in a bottomless hole. I saw the most horrific visions I have ever seen. It was very hard to talk myself out of this self manifested hell. I convinced myself this was only a test and one I could handle. They started talking to me (telepathically) again, only this time they had harsh Scottish accents. They focused on my past transgressions and told me not to come back unless I heeded their warning and changed some things I have needed to change for some time. One of the Grey's appeared again and opened a door out of nowhere. In actuality it was more like he ripped a hole in space and inside all I could see were beautiful colors. I sensed the world he showed me was full of love and happiness. He said "this is what awaits you if you take our advice and fix what you know is wrong". I was absolutely blown away. At this point the trip began to wind down. They continued to reiterate that I must take the advice I had been given, but the trip began to take a much lighter tone. As the experience wound down, their voice became distorted and almost unintelligible. I reminded me of the sound a toy makes when it is low on batteries. The tone gets lower and lower and more drawn out until...nothing. I opened my eyes and all I could say to my wife was "holy fuck".

Fast forward a couple weeks

I smoked some DMT in the same fashion, only this time I added Blue Lotus and Calea instead of the caapi. I had taken the steps suggested to me in my last journey and was greatly rewarded with such a pleasant experience. There were two women gossiping and hanging clothes. They appeared to be from a few centuries prior, possibly 1500s. Everything was extremely detailed, down to the cracks is the beautiful stucco walls. They had the most lovely British accents I have ever heard. In fact they were the most beautiful voices I have ever heard, period. They were talking about me as if I was not there, but I liked what I heard. All of the sudden only one woman was left and everything else went black. She had a paint pallet in one hand and a small paintbrush in the other. She carefully mixed some colors and began fling the paint around in the blackness. When the paint landed it formed stars, planets, and galaxies. I was watching the creation of the universe and she was "God". This startled me as I am not religious, but instead very spiritual. I could not see her face but I knew she would have been the most beautiful woman in existence. I could feel her beauty, her love, and I watched as she created everything. The trip began to wind down and I opened my eyes with a huge grin stretched across my face. This is the reward they were referring to. This was bliss.

I still don't know what to think of the woman. My only explanation continues to be that she was the creator of everything. God, if you like to call her that. I prefer to call her Mother, or the Great Spirit. It just seems more fitting.


Has anybody else experienced something similar? By similar I mean that your first journey into the DMT realm felt more like a test than anything else. I feel like it is how "they" or "it" weed out all non-hackers. Thoughts?
 
I can't say that I can relate to that much at all, but I think it's amazing that you were able to have such experiences. Sounds like you're able to bring back a lot of information with you which a lot of people tend to struggle with. I realize that there must have been a lot that you can't describe or purely can't remember, but you really managed to retain quite a lot from these experiences which is great. Welcome to the Nexus, and keep us updated with your journeys. Sounds like you're off to a good start.
 
Thanks for the reply. Not to my surprise, I found the experience that combined caapi much more colorful and intense.
 
Hey that sound like some awesome work brother. I have yet to myself breakthrough on DMT. Had a salvia trip that I had much to learn from. Got plenty of direction with some small DMT trips. Plus the cacti too. No I'm all set till a few more things are arranged. But I'm glad that you got a clear and strong message. And the details are inspiring, for any worried about hard times while in hyperspace.

Your second experience sounded really nice too. I forgot how detailed some of these breakthrough experiences are reported to be. Reminds me I want some caapi preferably before I go again or go hard.
 
Yea I wanted nothing other than a breakthrough for my first journey so I cleared the whole bowl in one breath. If you put enough in the bowl and smoke it like I did, there is no way you won't breakthough. Keep pulling the smoke into the chamber, but don't inhale any of it. It will take 3 or 4 good long draws to cash the bowl, then inhale all of the smoke in the bong in a single breath. Hold, exhale, and rocket into hyperspace.

Though I have tripped numerous times on other plant teachers, I have to admit I was skeptical about the whole "entities" thing. I'm here to tell you that is no joke. There are just as aware of your presence as you are of theirs and they can interact with you. My wife, however, didn't quite breakthrough. She saw the "Grey's" also, but they did not speak to her. They looked at her, then turned thier backs and ignored her.
 
The only thing I recognize from your experience is being examined by some entities. But not gray's.
And my trips are so far from consensus reality that I've never been able to describe much what I've experienced.

And I've never had any communication with the entities I've encountered. They only show me things. Never any verbal or mind communication.
 
During my first trip they were communicating telepathically almost nonstop. It was strange when their accents changed from American and familiar when not upset to Scottish and harsh when they were.
 
this is really interesting. lucky you!

im much more with dmt tripper, i find it all so abstract its hard to describe, i sense the entities and have seen them but am yet to directly interact with them. with time! my caapi leaf came through and im gunna make changa, but before that how is vaping a sandwich of leaf spice leaf in a GVG? advisable?

welcome to the nexus!
 
For some reason I got a strong sense of deja vu from that scottish accent comment, and I have no clue why.
 
My first experience was at a low dose. It was incredible and a very warm and blissful experience. I had insane vibrations that felt very familiar and I had such intense and beautiful patterns and colors displayed in my closed eyes.

It was my second experience, that I broke through and had an experience somewhat similar to what you described. I have a full and very long trip report of it, but it is very very long so Ill try to summerize.

A buddy of mine had a capsule of 150mg and he loaded about half of it(didn't weigh...) into a bong bowl on top of some herbs of his choice. My friend was lighting the bowl for me, and I started with one breath to get the bong milk. Then he continued to light it as I inhaled long and slowly. The first rip was quite big but we quickly went for another. Same thing, slowly inhaled and took a very big breath. Towards the end of this breath it was almost impossible to focus on the bowl and everything around it was breaking into crazy patterns. My friend took the bong as I laid down and closed my eyes. Instantly I had the same familiar vibes throughout my body. This time, however, the vibes changed and I realized I had thousands of tiny "needles" or threads shooting through my body. I was lying what felt like an examination table and I was surround by "greys" though it wasn't like I could see them with my normal vision, I could just tell there were there and I kinda could "see"/sense their physical appearance. There were quite a few of them and they all seemed to be laughing as they were disecting their new specimen. I even remember smaller one(children is how I thought of them)coming over to see what was happening, and then they would run away to go play. I felt very uncomfortable as I was being dissected: one, because of the very strange sensations of threadlike needles going into and out of my body rapidly(especially a very long and thicker one that went into my left arm) and I had a very strange sensation in my teeth, also I was uncomfortable because I felt like I was their toy, or something they could play with. They were all laughing and I wanted to show them that they weren't laughing AT me so I started laughing along, though in my mind I was not at ease. My laughing seemed to upset them, just slightly, and so the needles started coming faster and going deeper into my body. I also felt something in my genitals. It was very warm and almost nice but then it just felt wet and I was positive(at the time) that I would come out of it to find that I had pissed myself. I felt like I was in a home and it was almost like this was a family(somehow related to me) and I partially sensed that I was being welcomed to the family. But at the same time it was extremely uncomfortable and it didnt start out as frightening but the extreme discomfort and strangeness of it all made it become a bit scary. I tried to keep laughing but it was too much and I was too overwhelmed so I had to open my eyes and stop their experiment.

I sat up and asked my friend how long it had been. I know 10 minutes can feel like hours, but my friend said a minute or two,which shocked me because i was thinking at the very least, 7 to 10 minutes. I could still distinctly remember the feeling of the needles, especially in my left arm. I was so baffled and overwhelmed that I dont even remember what kinda visuals I still had, but the trees and sky and everything seemed alive with energy(it ws night time and we were in the middle of a field). The experience was sooo strange and bizarre, but later that night I understood that they weren't hostile but rather curious and interested in the uninvited visitor. It seemed somewhat like a test, but more like they were examining my body or doing something to it too see if I was worthy or something.. I am very grateful for this experience and I am still understanding it more as time goes on. It was certainly waaayyyy more bizarre than anything I expected, even though I had researched DMT in depth for months before hand.

Anyway sorry it ended being longer than I meant for it to be, but theres a bit more too it, if your interested I describe it.

Also I didn't piss myself8)
 
The way you describe the "Grey's" is exactly how I saw them. I could not see details, but the sillouette most definitly resembled a humanoid alien. The thing I find most interesting about this entheogen is the recurring similarities in visions had by different explorers at different times. I have never seen that with another halucinogenic substance
 
Yeah, it is strange how it's a common thing. When I opened my eyes and was back all I could think was that it was identical to reports of alien abduction. And it was somewhat frightening at first but the more I have reflected on it, I have become thankful for the opportunity that I had. It was soo different from anything I expected, even after reading crazy and bizarre DMT trip reports. At the time(while being "disected") I had the thought that I wouldn't ever have to smoke DMT again. And I was very convinced by that thought, but as time has passed I have been thinking about further exploration. But I am pretty convinced that it would be VERY difficult to get to the same place... I feel like you could take 100 DMT trips and never have the same type of experiences. Trips can include tales of elf worlds, outer space, mayan-like civilizations, machines, and much more

Does anyone on here have experience with going to the same place in hyperspace, or having very similar trips?
 
short answer, yesss!

thruogh i got spider web lke vision, i dont think it was a 100% sucess, but i got something out ofit

(will always remember that trip as something that lead a better understnading of nature)
 
on a couple of my most experiences i have encountered multiple 'wise' - 'old/ancient' female entities that seem to show me more every time then what i was initially seeing.

once i was at this wall of color and this old women came into my field of vision and proceeded to peal it down and expose an exquisite garden. The second time it was a very ancient all knowing face above me moving what i can only describe and multi colored shifting patterned folded silk before my eyes and a i could do nothing but laugh for the entire experience i felt incredibly energized and loved during and after the experience. The most recent time i encountered a female entity was again a wall of color but she lifted it up as though it were a silk hanker chef and exposed a 'gnome' that was examining my 'head'. when i looked around the room it looked like what i would assume a 50's house would of looked like. the entity had a 50's house wife feel/look to her this time.
 
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