What does breaking through acutall mean?

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A few days ago was my friends first DMT experience. He took Three hugh hits holding them in as long as he could. On the third one he didnt even remember blowing the hit out. He felt like the room completly dissolved. He also felt like he didnt even exist anymore. Time did not exist or matter any more. Did he break through.

 

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The reason he asks is because he is listening to alot of terence mckenna. And doesn not think he got to where he describes. Although The next try he took almost 5 hits to try get get as far a possible.

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

A few days ago was my friends first DMT experience. He took Three hugh hits holding them in as long as he could. On the third one he didnt even remember blowing the hit out. He felt like the room completly dissolved. He also felt like he didnt even exist anymore. Time did not exist or matter any more. Did he break through.

"Breaking through" is basically when you pass a threshold in the experience where you witness another realm/world. It's when you have no more recognition of the world around you and are completely immersed in "the other"

hope this helps

 

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yes thank you

 

[CatchThirtyThr33]

Happy to help :thumb_up:

The reason he asks is because he is listening to alot of terence mckenna. And doesn not think he got to where he describes. Although The next try he took almost 5 hits to try get get as far a possible.

Honestly my breakthroughs are not very similar to McKenna's. For me it's more of an observing experience than an interactive one. Terence famously talks about visually communicating with the self-transforming machine elves, though I've never communicated with the entities only seen them in their world. I wouldn't even call them 'Elves'

 

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A few days ago was my friends first DMT experience. He took Three hugh hits holding them in as long as he could. On the third one he didnt even remember blowing the hit out. He felt like the room completly dissolved. He also felt like he didnt even exist anymore. Time did not exist or matter any more. Did he break through.

Room dissolved...check
Time drops off completely...check

Sounds to me indeed like a breakthrough. They come in all shapes and sizes though. If you continue your work with DMT, it's likely that you'll see a whole range of variation to how breakthroughs can go. There's all different kinds, but Time not existing is a big part of a strong breakthrough for me.

...and don't worry about where McKenna got. His stories are awesome and colorful, but as with us all there is a great amount of reduction in writing words about the experience. He likes to use metaphor and simile a lot because it's often the only way most of us have for describing the indescribable. As I said though, there's all different kinds of breakthroughs. The DMT experience can and possibly might be the most variable experience you can take part of. There are so many options that it can (and will) throw your way if you work with it enough.

 

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Excelect thank you. My friend can relate with you on that. When he looks back He saw snakes and a dragon head swimming suspended in nothing. But it was like he was an outside observer. They seemed to be doing their own thing. Its very frusterating to describe and almost seems insulting to dmt to try. Its special...very special im in awe.:|

 

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When he looks back He saw snakes and a dragon head swimming suspended in nothing. But it was like he was an outside observer. They seemed to be doing their own thing.

Yeah, sometimes DMT can interact with you in very direct and personal ways, and other times it simply seems to be putting on a display.