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damn, I thought they found it in every plant though, so who says it's in everything? they haven't even found it in a person yet? weird, maybe it just functions so well because it's in between 5-htp and seratonin, right? oh well...

i know one thing, i wouldn't believe that something only released twice in your life will be found in the human body, AND it can be acted upon, and give you a clear experience.

   In fact, the human body regulates itself constantly, mammals are high energy burning oxygen consuming animals, and i don't think ANYTHING isn't circulated, IF ANYTHING, it's something that RESEMBLES something else, but it is found in the human body, the only way it would be seldomly used, is if the brain needs it as a stable chemical to hold onto, only in a precursor mode to be made into something else, like seratonin, or melatonin, or some crap.

   the fact is, most amino acids are so rare, the human body probably HAS to hang onto them because they are not easily replenished.

   It's probably the experience of dmt that leads people to believe it's so rare. And honestly I don't blame them, because i get that same reaction, but a molecule is a molecule, and it has a purpose, besides leading someone away from death.

   OTHERWISE, if it was some grand spiritual molecule, interconnected to everything, than i'd be right about all organic chemicals being similar, and that lsd is something that should be found in nature, because of it's close relationship to something easily needed in it's basic structure, by all organic life on earth. But it can't be both.

   either there's a connection, or a molecule is just needed for the host it's being used by, and NOT NECESSARILY by anything else(although You can't say i'm wrong completely, because THERE IS a chain of things used by life, so if there's a connection, you can't say something else is COMPLETELY off.

for example, if you can say plants need protein, and people need protein, and plants need vitamins they create, and people need vitamins they create, you can't COMPLETELY say that lysergic acid diethylamide isn't some basic organic molecule, if it is for people, exept that plants aren't as complicated as humans, so you therefore you can't create a reason a plant would need it as a necessity.

   oh well

<blockquote data-quote="imachavel" data-source="post: 3217777" data-attributes="member: 644">damn, I thought they found it in every plant though, so who says it&#039;s in everything? they haven&#039;t even found it in a person yet? weird, maybe it just functions so well because it&#039;s in between 5-htp and seratonin, right? oh well...&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; i know one thing, i wouldn&#039;t believe that something only released twice in your life will be found in the human body, AND it can be acted upon, and give you a clear experience.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; In fact, the human body regulates itself constantly, mammals are high energy burning oxygen consuming animals, and i don&#039;t think ANYTHING isn&#039;t circulated, IF ANYTHING, it&#039;s something that RESEMBLES something else, but it is found in the human body, the only way it would be seldomly used, is if the brain needs it as a stable chemical to hold onto, only in a precursor mode to be made into something else, like seratonin, or melatonin, or some crap.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; the fact is, most amino acids are so rare, the human body probably HAS to hang onto them because they are not easily replenished.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; It&#039;s probably the experience of dmt that leads people to believe it&#039;s so rare. And honestly I don&#039;t blame them, because i get that same reaction, but a molecule is a molecule, and it has a purpose, besides leading someone away from death.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; OTHERWISE, if it was some grand spiritual molecule, interconnected to everything, than i&#039;d be right about all organic chemicals being similar, and that lsd is something that should be found in nature, because of it&#039;s close relationship to something easily needed in it&#039;s basic structure, by all organic life on earth. But it can&#039;t be both.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; either there&#039;s a connection, or a molecule is just needed for the host it&#039;s being used by, and NOT NECESSARILY by anything else(although You can&#039;t say i&#039;m wrong completely, because THERE IS a chain of things used by life, so if there&#039;s a connection, you can&#039;t say something else is COMPLETELY off.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; for example, if you can say plants need protein, and people need protein, and plants need vitamins they create, and people need vitamins they create, you can&#039;t COMPLETELY say that lysergic acid diethylamide isn&#039;t some basic organic molecule, if it is for people, exept that plants aren&#039;t as complicated as humans, so you therefore you can&#039;t create a reason a plant would need it as a necessity.&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; oh well</blockquote>

[QUOTE="imachavel, post: 3217777, member: 644"] damn, I thought they found it in every plant though, so who says it's in everything? they haven't even found it in a person yet? weird, maybe it just functions so well because it's in between 5-htp and seratonin, right? oh well... i know one thing, i wouldn't believe that something only released twice in your life will be found in the human body, AND it can be acted upon, and give you a clear experience. In fact, the human body regulates itself constantly, mammals are high energy burning oxygen consuming animals, and i don't think ANYTHING isn't circulated, IF ANYTHING, it's something that RESEMBLES something else, but it is found in the human body, the only way it would be seldomly used, is if the brain needs it as a stable chemical to hold onto, only in a precursor mode to be made into something else, like seratonin, or melatonin, or some crap. the fact is, most amino acids are so rare, the human body probably HAS to hang onto them because they are not easily replenished. It's probably the experience of dmt that leads people to believe it's so rare. And honestly I don't blame them, because i get that same reaction, but a molecule is a molecule, and it has a purpose, besides leading someone away from death. OTHERWISE, if it was some grand spiritual molecule, interconnected to everything, than i'd be right about all organic chemicals being similar, and that lsd is something that should be found in nature, because of it's close relationship to something easily needed in it's basic structure, by all organic life on earth. But it can't be both. either there's a connection, or a molecule is just needed for the host it's being used by, and NOT NECESSARILY by anything else(although You can't say i'm wrong completely, because THERE IS a chain of things used by life, so if there's a connection, you can't say something else is COMPLETELY off. for example, if you can say plants need protein, and people need protein, and plants need vitamins they create, and people need vitamins they create, you can't COMPLETELY say that lysergic acid diethylamide isn't some basic organic molecule, if it is for people, exept that plants aren't as complicated as humans, so you therefore you can't create a reason a plant would need it as a necessity. oh well [/QUOTE]