What is this!?? San pedro extraction, HELP!

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While doing the last step of my extraction (69ron'S mescaline extraction), something started to precipitate in my vials. I do not know what it is and i am very curious.

PS: This is not the goo that i am suppose to get.

 

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[Kash]

Try filtering some of it and let it dry. If the powder tastes bitter its mescaline, if not then poweder is garbage and can be thrown out..

Try explaining the last few steps you did will give a better picture.

 

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I followed the 69ron'S tek found on the nexus. I poured my vinegar in a small bowl until it dry. I had a ''goo'' and could not scrape it because it was too hard so i mixed some vinegar to turn in back in a liquid form. i then preceded to pour it in those little vials. the vinegar did not evaporate since the temp is not high enough. Instead, a precipitation started.

I will taste it and comment after, if it is mescaline, im a bit surprise!

 

[Mr.Peabody]

One thing about following that tek exactly is the gooey form the mescaline will come in. You may have read about it, but it seems to be a common problem with using acetic acid. It may well be gooey mescaline!

You can follow that tek all the way, but change to hydrochloric acid on the salting step. It makes nice easy crystals. It's almost as food safe (HCl is the same acid naturally found in the stomach), especially if you can find pure HCl. Store bought HCl works well for me, and you only use a few drops, so it doesn't worry me to use.

 

[ipumaestro]

one can easily convert acetic mesc into hcl by adding a small amount of hcl to the liquid container acetic mesc.

 

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I heard mesc HCL is not as good?

 

[ipumaestro]

the form of salt is mostly irrelevant when it comes to the experience, however hcl is arguable easier to work with due to its nature. vinegar is impure acetic acid and often produces a goo whereas hcl will evaporate off leaving just hcl. cleaning hcl can be done with dry acetone whereas acetic mesc is a bit trickier.

upon ingestion of mesc the acid in ones stomach will convert all forms of mesc to hcl because thats the acid type of stomach acid, so it dosent matter because its going to be hcl anyway

 

[Kash]

Purely speaking HCl should be the best as it has the lowest molecular weight. Sulfate should be the next most potent as it bonds to 2 mescaline molecules giving it a lower molecular weight ratio than acetate. Acetate should be the weakest of the common three salt forms. However, factors come into play such as purity and reliability of user reports, so who is to say really? It would require a scientific study on the activity of each salt form at a reliable purity, of which likely don't differ besides potency in mol weight, with multiple trials.

Basically, yes mesc hcl is just as good as acetate.

 

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Thanks kash, you seem to know alot!

 

[Ilex]

When I did this tek, during final reduction of several combined vinegar washes (was using a hotplate, and it was down to about 100 mL of liquid from an original volume of about 3 liters) there came a point where whitish crystals crashed out of solution. I collected them by filtration, upon drying they had the right flaky, off white appearance to be mescaline acetate, and the taste was bitter.

Bioassays of the material confirmed psychedelic activity. Compared to a cruder preparation (like a tea) of the cactus, there was much less body load. Reminded one a lot of LSD, though a little more clear headed. Seems it was indeed mescaline.