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Most minor hallucinations ?
Since i never tried any substances that causes "trips" and i want to know what is a good supstance that will introduce me to the trip world, and i only want minor effects so i can at least know just a little what to expect when i use Spice or LSD.
So i don't get freaked out by the effects.

Also i readed that it's not good to trip if u have some problems in life.
Only problem currently that is bugging me out is that i haven't talked with my Dad for more then 5-6 months after we had a fight.So could that affect my trip and cause bad memories that i pulled into bottom of my brain to raise up and cause me a Bad trip?Also through my life since i know for myself there was always some family problems.I got some real bad memories from my childhood and i just wanna know if that could influence the trip.


Its my first post so please i apologize if i made some mistakes.


Thanks.
 
well 5meo doesnt cause mush visual effects at all, yet it is one of the most freaky substances there is..
Juse becasue a certain psychedelic doenst make you halluicinate much doesnt say anything about it's freaky factor.

5meo puts me into strange thought loops and ego death..very difficult experiences. It is nice though in real low doses.

Maybe start out with a gram or so of dried mushrooms or a low dose of cactus. Even just low doses of smoked DMT may bebest becasue if you freak out it's only a few minutes that you really peak for..andlow doses dont make you hallucinate much, things just get real clear and enhanced..and you usually feel very nice and connected, very euphoric.

In lots of cultures psychedelics are used specifically when one IS having problems in life, these are healing medicines..

Psychedelics may help you with your problems with your father..you may have to face some thoughts about yourself that maybe youhave been avoiding..but that sort of goes without saying when doing these things..the fact that you are even thinking aboutit says something..it must be lingering in the back of your mind at least a bit.

Maybe just break the ice and go talk to your father before hand..what do you have to loose? The ability to forgive and forget is a great thing that can be rare these days..The world could probabily usea little more forgivness.
 
Im going to go ahead and say that most likely no matter what you do, you cannot be fully prepared and will probably be a at least little freaked out when you use it. Thats ok though, if you could be fully prepared it wouldn't be a adventure, right? Perhaps it wont be so much the past lifetime you have had, but the setting you do it in and the mindset/your place in life you are currently in that will affect you. You seem a little afraid to take it and thats fine but if you regret it while first getting the feelings after ingestion, it can't be leading down a good 'trip'.

Everyone has problems in life, im going to say do whatever you gotta do to get that stress outta you, have someone you trust by you, load up your dmt pipe with a average dose, jump into it with no fear and no regrets, than meditate on what you felt and learned from your experience and call up your dad. Although a fight can tear you apart, you can come back together stronger than ever. If not, you put your invitation out there and are ready to man up whenever he is.

but above all else, do what YOU feel you should do. Its good to find comfort in other peoples suggestions, but its YOUR instinct and thoughts that carry you through life.

Whatever happens, good luck:wink:

oh ps- welcome to the boards:d
 
make sure whatever you use as your first "trip" has been researched at erowid .there are tons of info on dose strenghts to help you choose what YOU think you can handle.

also, this mental confortation with your father is bound to happen sooner or later just a warning.me and my father went about 8 years without talking 6 times since 2000.it always was buried in my mind,even though i would go weeks even months without even thinking about him.most of the times i tripped i didnt think of him,but sometimes that was all i could think about.i had begun to realize me and my father was the exact same person on shrooms once and ever since that moment our distance hasnt bothered me.since then he has kind of reappeared in my life so everythings cool.we still only talk once every 2 months or so but thats plenty!

peace and welcome
 
I always say pick any substance that it's easy to measure a tiny bit of and your aim with your first dose is for it to do nothing. Then gradually turn up the gas in small increments. There's no better way for the cautious.

I always think if you go straight in with large doses of anything, it will cause some anxiety which your mind will begin to associate with the substance even when you just feel it at lower doses. But by gradually weening yourself onto higher doses, this anxiety should be eliminated within reason. At least it will be easier to manage.

For the record I don't think any substance can prepare you for another. I have a friend who had never taken any psychedelics EVER and then me and him had some acid one night. I was a little concerned for him, but by the end of the night it was him who was trying to talk ME down :roll:

And nothing could have prepared me for DMT, but it WAS a VERY pleasant surprise :)
 
thank you all for your answers you helped me lots :) , by the way i smoke ganja for 2 years .

Anyway speaking of DMT or Salvia there is no such thing here in my country, only LSD but i don't know how good it is.
But tripping on LSD for 6+ hours for the first time, no thx :)
 
No such thing? DMT is fuckin everywhere man, hell, YOU are DMT! And you got the web don't you? Go order some salvia, or some mimosa hostilis and do an extraction =)

There is nothing wrong with LSD by the way. It may be long according to our usual sense of time, but trust me, you take a standard dose of it your perspective on time will significantly change, and you'll probably have no concept or idea of how long an hour really is. I've used LSD to introduce several friends to the world of mind altering substances, and the experiences have always been good. It's not that big a deal, a lot of people start with LSD or mushrooms in their psychedelic journey. And if you've been smoking alot of cannabis you are already familiar with being in a different state. Personally I jumped straight into the psychedelic business by eating a solid dose of psilocybin mushrooms, a good initiation indeed.

And the way I see it freaking out can happen to anyone, on any substance. This may be more because of you than the substance you've ingested. But then again DMT usually freaks people out with it's unbelievable strong onset. But the point still stands, freaking out on psychedelics is in most cases because of yourself, the place you're in or the people you're with (or a combination of these things), not the substance itself. Just be calm and feel safe with what you're doing, and be sure to be very selective as to where you do it as this is your first time.
 
Another thing with LSD... you can't see it or smell it so how do you know what you're getting. My frist experience with LSD... wasn't LSd... it sucked.

Be careful.
 
Citta said:
There is nothing wrong with LSD by the way. It may be long according to our usual sense of time, but trust me, you take a standard dose of it your perspective on time will significantly change, and you'll probably have no concept or idea of how long an hour really is. I've used LSD to introduce several friends to the world of mind altering substances, and the experiences have always been good. It's not that big a deal, a lot of people start with LSD or mushrooms in their psychedelic journey. And if you've been smoking alot of cannabis you are already familiar with being in a different state. Personally I jumped straight into the psychedelic business by eating a solid dose of psilocybin mushrooms, a good initiation indeed.
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I done the same when I was younger, just went for it, quite naively but I loved acid and mushrooms was a great surprise. If you have heard from people that whats going around is LSD then id defo buy some and maybe take half or even quarter to test potency, at low doses you wont get many visuals but good chance youll get noticable mental effects. Plus acid doesnt have a bodyload like mushrooms, I wouldnt go with salvia though as its quite different from the rest, mushrooms acid or spice would be ideal, id maybe buy some acid just incase it is acid and you realise you like these things. Good luck!
 
It doesn't sound like you're mentally prepared. The reason is your doubt. I mean, lots of people had doubts, my peruvian freiend for whom I speak as well. But the most important thing is to trust a substance. And you have to expect EVERYTHING. If you think you can test the waters ...there is the possibility of getting really surprised. Not expecting a very intense experience..you might freak out.

A low spice dosage doesn't sound too bad a choice. Mainly because it's so short. Can't say nothing about acid and shrooms though. Salvia is fascinating, but can be pretty dark and disturbing.
 
Unknown said:
Anyway speaking of DMT or Salvia there is no such thing here in my country, only LSD but i don't know how good it is.
But tripping on LSD for 6+ hours for the first time, no thx :)
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a 6+ hour lsd trip sounds damn good at the moment:d . you cant find anything around here but bitter tarts or bitter blotter anymore and you know what they say,"if its bitter,its a spitter".my first exp w/uncle cid ,over 10 years ago, was a flop because i dissected 1 blotter in to 4 pcs and split w/friends .i did that cause i didnt want the acid to burn too big of a hole in my brain lol(naive).after barely feeling shit i realized i needed atleast 2 blotters next time. needless to say it was just crazy.it seemed like an hour passed between 9pm and 9am. my stomach muscles hurt the next day purely from laughing!that was real lsd.

these acid imposters around nowdays can be frightning even for the experienced traveler.2 hits of DOX ,sold as acid at a rave,had me trippin over 36 hours later.by that time i had started to come to grips with never coming down.bad,bad weekend:( .the DOX chemical i took would have been better handled if i would've only ate 1 blotter by itself and not 2 on top of 5 tabs of x.way too much in hindsite.

make sure you do your research and know what your taking.

obliguhl brings up a good point about you not sounding mentally prepared.being mentally prepared is a must.if your mind isnt clear or your packing around some heavy shit up there your sitting yourself up for disaster.dont take something on a whim for sure.your bound to have some fear of tripping for the first time but thats natural.just wait til the time is right.you'll know when.
 
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I always say pick any substance that it's easy to measure a tiny bit of and your aim with your first dose is for it to do nothing. Then gradually turn up the gas in small increments. There's no better way for the cautious.

obliguhl:
A low spice dosage doesn't sound too bad a choice. Mainly because it's so short.
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IMHO I would follow the above advice.

Get you some 0.001g scales- try ebay.

BTW: It's worth it. It's heaven.

Welcome & Good luck 8)
 
Eat two grams of shrooms, have a sitter you trust and afterwards you're going to want to go and hug your father. For me that would be the most possible outcome. It can really clear up some shit from the past. It might get a bit difficult at times when tripping but usually you gain very valuable insights from those kind of experiences. Sometimes a little part of the trip is hard but then you get your reward when you learn to let go. Get out of your ego.

Good luck.
 
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