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what to do with Limo FASW emulsions

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So SWIM was doing a limtek extraction and he mixed the limo with FASW really well with a cooking whisker and it worked really well but it seems to of formed an emulsion. After letting it sit overnight and adding a bit more Limo it broke up and left these brownish white crystals floating in a snotty kind of egg like substance, and he is wondering what he should do with it.
If its spice fumarate how would he go about getting it? is it actually spice or just fumaric acid?

any help would be appreciated

Thanks
 
just collect the DMT fumerate water and dont worry about stuff floating in it..prob oils IME but maybe some spice as well..I just dehydrate it over night, scrape up the xtals and then convert with sodium carb..whatever crap you picked up should be eliminated when you convert it anyway..unless you just want fumerates for oral use..in that case I would just clean them once.

That FASW tek is messy IMO and I had pink oils floating in the water when I salted..but it was fine and my final product is potent and smokes nice and clean.
 
Just throw it in the freezer and be done with it. By freezing, the polar layer will solidify, and the limo can simply be decanted. This is how SWIM does all of his separations. To help clean it up a little prior to thawing and evaping the polar layer, wash the ice chunk off with a bit of IPA to remove leftover limonene.
 
amor_fati said:
Just throw it in the freezer and be done with it. By freezing, the polar layer will solidify, and the limo can simply be decanted. This is how SWIM does all of his separations. To help clean it up a little prior to thawing and evaping the polar layer, wash the ice chunk off with a bit of IPA to remove leftover limonene.
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This is what SWIM has done now a few times based on your advice in your tech's thread. Works like a charm. SWIM actually just ran some water over the Ice chunk after pouring off the limo.

Just be on the safe side to make sure it is frozen all the way through. One time SWIM thought it was frozen solid, but some of the water in the middle was able to get through when pouring it off.
 
armor, is this how SWIY did the separation with veggie oil?

Blue Entity wonders if it might work well with olive oil. He used a separatory funnel then froze that and rinsed the ice chunk to get oil residue off.
 
logos2012 said:
armor, is this how SWIY did the separation with veggie oil?
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Freeze separation is how he's done it almost ever since he stopped using petrochems...not to mention busting his separatory funnel. It's in the compendium and will be expounded upon in the near-future.

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Actually, it's not in the compendium, but it will be shortly.
 
He was just wondering whether the oil would freeze or turn into a thick gel or something. A gel may not be too hard to separate.

When he did the olive oil extraction the oil in the separatory funnel was pretty thick already. He had to poke at it with a hanger to get some FASW bubbles loose that were stuck in the olive oil layer.
 
If you didnt think about this yet: Next time dont mix like you did, simple stiring will be more than enough mixing for dmt to migrate to FASW, and there should be no or very little emulsions. Personally i would separate as much of the clear FASW layer as possible, and leave the rest/emulsion in, and add more FASW for at least a second round of FASW salting on that limo. That way whatever fumarates are trapped in the emulsion will move to the rest of the FASW once you add that in for the second salting.
 
logos2012 said:
He was just wondering whether the oil would freeze or turn into a thick gel or something. A gel may not be too hard to separate.
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amor_fati said:
...the slushy nonpolar layer is super easy to remove from the solid polar layer, as he made mention of earlier (thought the whole process was posted, but it's just in the compendium): Simply shake it up and squeeze it out if the container is plastic. Otherwise, scoop it out. SWIM's really not sure about the whole soap angle, but he hasn't noticed it with limtek (not too surprising, as theres no lye in the mixture). Anyway, the layer is probably emulsions, and the best answer he can offer is freezing and taking care of the separation as previously mentioned. Partial freezing (not quite to the point of solidification) may at least quell those emulsions.


It's important to mention that although veggie oil doesn't seem soluble in IPA, IPA will cause it to behave much like water, as though reducing the viscosity. SWIM does a quick IPA wash of the frozen polar layer after removing the gelled/slushy oil, and though its' likely some amount of oil will be left after evaporating the thawed polar layer, another quick IPA wash will clean it right up. SWIM's even done this to clean up acetates, apparently without losing any product (even with 90%IPA--SWIM's work with it in the past showed him that the water content will simply separate when mixed with several types of salts if it even mixes much at all)--all of it remaining adhered to the dish.
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