Whats up with my mescaline HCl?

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Hi guys,

For about 3 months or I've been working with San Pedro cactus, I've tried tea and had some absolutely amazing experiences as well as some not so great ones. The last few times with tea I had intense purges and had a rough time till about 2 hours in, after all this i decided to try out a mescaline extraction to avoid taste and nausea from tea.

The extractions where done following Kashs A/B with xylene used to do pulls on the basiefied tea, HCl to salt out the alkaloids and acetone to wash. Each time ended up with very nice crystal formation but the effects were minimal and needed quite large doses for effect (mainly a stimulant effect lasting hours). What could be the cause of this? The crystals looked exactly like mescaline and had a very bitter alkaloid taste..


I have done a few attempts and each time ending up with the same results. I did not use a scale though but the amount of extract ingested seemed avg. 250-600mg. Caffeine did have an absolutely amazing euphoric effect combined with low doses which also seemed to have a lot more enjoyable effect compared to larger doses which only cause stimulation and some vascodialtion


Thanks a lot for any help.

 

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I did do further acetone washes on the extracted showed in the attached photo, result was very nice clean crystals

 

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Hi guys,

For about 3 months or I've been working with San Pedro cactus, I've tried tea and had some absolutely amazing experiences as well as some not so great ones. The last few times with tea I had intense purges and had a rough time till about 2 hours in, after all this i decided to try out a mescaline extraction to avoid taste and nausea from tea.

The extractions where done following Kashs A/B with xylene used to do pulls on the basiefied tea, HCl to salt out the alkaloids and acetone to wash. Each time ended up with very nice crystal formation but the effects were minimal and needed quite large doses for effect (mainly a stimulant effect lasting hours). What could be the cause of this? The crystals looked exactly like mescaline and had a very bitter alkaloid taste..


I have done a few attempts and each time ending up with the same results. I did not use a scale though but the amount of extract ingested seemed avg. 250-600mg. Caffeine did have an absolutely amazing euphoric effect combined with low doses which also seemed to have a lot more enjoyable effect compared to larger doses which only cause stimulation and some vascodialtion


Thanks a lot for any help.

Id look into getting a cheap $20 mg scale. I know you might think you were dosing in that range, although you could have been quite a bit off. Crystal density/etc can vary and it's tough to gauge dosages unless you have one. It's an inexpensive tool you shouldn't go without imo. I guarantee if you were to weigh up 600mg and put it side by side with what you eye-balled; there would be a considerable difference.

I've worked with mescaline hcl quite a few times (kashs tek numerous times), and honestly it's my favorite form in ingesting mescaline. I would take anywhere in the ballpark of 600-700mg hcl. That provided a pretty sufficient/intense experience; and if I were sitting still at any point, the effects would quickly build and I would become enveloped by the rainbow prismatic beingness of mescaline, being enveloped at certain points in highly immersive scenery/visions, BUT if I were having to get up or move it would be totally possible.

Mescaline's one of those things to where dosage ranges can swing far and wide. Things really don't start becoming immersive/full-on trip until about 600mg ime. Up until that point it's essentially hyper-infused colors, heavy stimulation, intense pattern recognition/edging for many; also strong empathic and introspective aspects. It's a very forgiving experience unlike tryptamines and to 'really' get in a heavy space, many i've read and seen take higher than 600 (some push around anywhere from 800mg to 1g).

Then again, dosage isn't the only factor - mindstate, physiology, events leading up until the point of ingestion; there's so many unnoticed factors I feel that people don't consider. How the experience unfolds isn't entirely dependent on dosage alone. Also, taking it one day doesn't necessarily mean that if you were to take it x amount of days later, that it'd produce the same experience more or less.

Mescalines a very functional psychedelic and it can take quite a dosage to spill all the marbles.

Btw, those xtals look beautiful. I hope everything works out.