Which Harmala Extract?

[Violet Quark]

Hi Folks.
I've been reading a lot (and discussing with folks on here) about how best to administer Harmalas prior to smoking spice.
I want to try the sub-lingual method initially and have found various items available.
They seem to be:-
Full Spectrum Free Base
Full Spectrum Hydrochloride
Harmine Freebase
Harmaline Hydrochloride.
The question is, which will work best with my chosen method?
Thanks for looking.

 

[monomind]

All of the items you mentioned will work. Freebase tastes better and is less soluble but both hcl and freebase should be fine.
Best is to try it for yourself and see what you like the most.

 

[Jozeh]

Freebase is for smoking; you can't/shouldn't smoke salts.
Salts are more bioavailable for oral/sublingual route.
Freebase will turn in to a salt in the acidic environment of the stomach; I am unsure this occurs with the sublingual route or if it matters.

I would recommend reading about the difference between harmine and harmaline and dosage required for your chosen method. A quick search yields this post, a good place to start.

I would also recommend reading Tao of rue extraction with a little bit of knowledge you can convert between FB and salt form and also separate the harmine from harmaline.

Given a choice, I would say Full-spectrum Hydrochloride as it is already in salt form. And if needs be you can separate for future experiments.

 

[Violet Quark]

Thanks for the info guys.
I'll do some more research but at least I have an idea what does what now.
VQ

 

[rOm]

Freebase is for smoking; you can't/shouldn't smoke salts.
Salts are more bioavailable for oral/sublingual route.
Freebase will turn in to a salt in the acidic environment of the stomach; I am unsure this occurs with the sublingual route or if it matters.

I would recommend reading about the difference between harmine and harmaline and dosage required for your chosen method. A quick search yields this post, a good place to start.

I would also recommend reading Tao of rue extraction with a little bit of knowledge you can convert between FB and salt form and also separate the harmine from harmaline.

Given a choice, I would say Full-spectrum Hydrochloride as it is already in salt form. And if needs be you can separate for future experiments.

Except as he asked for smoking he should go full spectrum freebase or harmine freebase. Except if he wants to freebase himself.

To the OP, you should read FAQ. Looks like you are lacking basics here, not even sure how you passed the test but yeh think " freebase " DMT or Harmalas etc... for SMOKING or VAPING. Salts like HCL( hydrochloride, fumarates,citrates, etc.. for other ROA ). but you can store and change also your form, like have salts and freebase it yourself ( DMT fumarate stores very well, andone can freebase what he wants for changa or DMT smoking etc.. also you can eat harmalas freebase and DMT fumarate for pharmahuasca as your stomach will do the job offreebase to HCL. Just DMT FB is harder onstomach while harmalas FB aren't. Have good read in TEK section, Health and safety, FAQ etc.

 

[Jozeh]

Except as he asked for smoking he should go full spectrum freebase or harmine freebase. Except if he wants to freebase himself.

@rOm. OP is looking to sublingual dose the harmalas.

 

[rOm]

Except as he asked for smoking he should go full spectrum freebase or harmine freebase. Except if he wants to freebase himself.

@rOm. OP is looking to sublingual dose the harmalas.

Ah I see. Well then, should do salts, cause doubt freebase works well sublingual (I tried even nasal them butno effects ).
Also can just dilute freebase witha few drops of vinegar and water and either evap that for subling or liquid subling it with a little more water. Can drink after. Or simply dose whatever harmalas orally and vape Spice.

 

[Violet Quark]

@rOm I didn't even know I had passed the test to be honest, but from what I know the most important thing is safety so I just ask to make double sure.
Even in this thread people are not always agreeing 100% but yes I need to research more which I am doing.
Now I know a bit more I might go for the freebase and smoke it anyway.
Thanks for all the input from everybody.