who knows they are alive?

[kristian]

how?


also can i please enter the chat, i miss chatting with my hyperspace buds

p.s. everything became so real, i looked at something and could finally understand that im just putting a word to an object and anything else i thought was an association from context that had previously existed. i can see you. i can really see you.

 

[ewok]

I think, therefore I am.

 

[Newfoundland]

My mother has stretchmarks to prove my existence

 

[endlessness]

A pragmatic approach: What is "real", and when is it actually useful to ask this? - Philosophy - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus

and yeah chat should be working fine

 

[SpireCatalyst]

I believe i am alive due the connections i FEEL, not interpret, towards the people i love and objects i see around me whether theyre inanimate or not. i know that if i had no sense of languange i would still feel this. And when i die maybe then ill find out for sure if this life was in fact a real life, without the use of a hyperspace catalyst


AND... my mom has stratch marks to prove it too haha

 

[timothydeez]

chat is not working for me as well!

 

[SnozzleBerry]

I think, therefore I am.

Eh, Descartes always seemed fundamentally flawed to me (dualistic models of existence just don't fit the reality I have lived)...I identify with the presence/observer behind my thoughts rather than the thoughts themselves...or at least I try

The thoughts are certainly not me, or I in any entire/holistic sense

 

[curious sigma one]

I am also suspicious about dualisms. However, it does fondle the mind to ponder the dualities of something versus nothing.

Or you can be a "true-ist" and believe in only existence instead of the idea that there once was nothing. Believing in only existence seems to be a trend for existing. The idea that something came out of nothing plagues me over and over and allows me to see some alien like individual off in space laughing at me in its insanity. The ultimate riddle?

About whether or not you are alive. Alive is a word, a term that seeks to create a duality of life and death, being physical and not being physical. The problem with this train of thought is that there is something greater that just "being alive"---existence. What we can claim is existence, an existential validation of existence, not that I you or he and she exists, but that something exists. Words tend to cloud understanding and less and less can describe what we see in hallucinations. Not to mention 5ht1a and 2a receptors in relation to speech and thought in relation to dmt receptors. It seems dmt might be diffused by thoughts and spoken language, as in we are missing the point by consciously thinking instead of listening.

Think and speak less, listen more, there is an attractor at the end of the road that has a message indescribable to human language.

 

[gibran2]

All I know for certain is that “something” has conscious experiences. I usually refer to that “something” as me.

Actually, now that I think about it, it’s even more basic than that – all I really know for certain is that there are conscious experiences. I can’t even say for certain if there is a “something” having those experiences.

 

[ewok]

I feel as soon as you say I you acknowledged you exist.

 

[gibran2]

I feel as soon as you say I you acknowledged you exist.

“I” may just be illusory. Conscious experiences suggest an “I”, but the existence of self can’t be proven any more readily than the existence of anything else that appears to exist.

It may be that consciousness is all that exists. Where does “you” or “I” fit into that?

 

[ewok]

I feel as soon as you say I you acknowledged you exist.

“I” may just be illusory. Conscious experiences suggest an “I”, but the existence of self can’t be proven any more readily than the existence of anything else that appears to exist.

It may be that consciousness is all that exists. Where does “you” or “I” fit into that?

Yes many questions are left unanswered when it comes to existence, while I am most likely wrong, for me as long as I'm experiencing thoughts, feelings, emotions I know I exist now how I exist is a entirely different question. Maybe my existence isn't in my mind, maybe the body is simply a vessel who knows, but I do know somewhere somehow I exist.

 

[John Smith]

Being alive? That depends on your own definition of being alive. Having your consciousness expressing yourself is alive to me, in one form or another. Even if we are abstract entities simply dreaming of this physical realm.

 

[Enoon]

I know the experience of life is real because I experience it. I am real because I experience it - this is one definition of reality that personally I subscribe to. This does not mean that all that is real will or can interact with each other. My dreams for example will only indirectly through my psyche interact with my waking reality, but that does not mean that the dreams were not real in the sense that I did not dream them. I dreamed them, my brain or consciousness went through certain processes during them etc.
If everything were an illusion the concept of illusion would in effect become meaningless, no? To me an illusion is just an experienced reality that has no direct interaction-interface with what we call physical reality. Additionally illusions seem to sometimes refer to unnecessary mental constructs with which we would do better without and that normally imply for us some kind of need.

As for being alive... is there an established definition of life yet?

 

[Wave Rider]

***Just my subjective opinion here***

I exist

...regardless of whether it is true or not.

In the end, who gives a shit; it is what it is.

Good question though, and I mean no disrespect.

 

[polytrip]

I think, therefore I am.

Eh, Descartes always seemed fundamentally flawed to me (dualistic models of existence just don't fit the reality I have lived)...I identify with the presence/observer behind my thoughts rather than the thoughts themselves...or at least I try

The thoughts are certainly not me, or I in any entire/holistic sense

Many philosophers disagree about what descartes realy meant with those words. Some say, like you seem to do, that descartes realy meant that the intellect is a proof/source of being aware. Others believe that he must have refered to the fact that if there's ANY sort of mental content, there must realy be some kind of medium to host it.

Back to the question of the OP.
There are moments that i definately know i'm alive.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

I think, therefore I am.

Eh, Descartes always seemed fundamentally flawed to me (dualistic models of existence just don't fit the reality I have lived)...I identify with the presence/observer behind my thoughts rather than the thoughts themselves...or at least I try

The thoughts are certainly not me, or I in any entire/holistic sense

Many philosophers disagree about what descartes realy meant with those words. Some say, like you seem to do, that descartes realy meant that the intellect is a proof/source of being aware. Others believe that he must have refered to the fact that if there's ANY sort of mental content, there must realy be some kind of medium to host it.

Back to the question of the OP.
There are moments that i definately know i'm alive.

I'd agree with that statement^^^^^

As to descartes, the second interpretation you give seems to fall flat once you factor in his view of animals a soulless machines.

 

[kristian]

nothing is never here. if it were, it wouldn't exist, because it is nothing. to imagine nothing is to only wish it could be. life is but a construct of illusions. several chemical reactions taking place, in a space that is, what is, the universe?

 

[MojoPin]

I know I am alive, but I think that life inhabiting an organism is only one form of life. If you get me :? I believe there can be life without the organism, like the organism is just a vessel for the terrain. If I was confident that there were some sort of 'stages' to life, I'd say that having a vessel is the first and that we are some-what in the womb of universe.