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Why does my DMT trip are now Black & White

locky

Rising Star
Hi There fellow psychonauts,

My DMT trip used to be full of colors, fist they were begining with colorfull fractals vortex rapidely moving, zooming in and out and spinning and shifting rapidely pulling me trought to DMT space and then seeing that space with entities all outlined with vivid holographic style colors, very dynamics...

Now latetely, it all shift colors less, all moving at slower speed, the fractal vortex is now spinning and zooming more slowly, moslty black & white style, pulling me again to DMT space but the space itself and entities also appear now black & white style, the space itself seem more stable, like if before the space I was in was constantly changing and now it stay the same space till the trip over, entities before were rapidely changing forms and colors amd moving around, now they seem more relax, no colors, just black & white, I now have the time to look around the space and entities, before, everything was changing so fast that I didnt had time to enjoy the space that it was something else entirely.

Is this normal? Is it that I'm getting used to the space itself and so bacame less chaotic? will the holographics colors ever come back in a next trip? is it just the space or dimension I'm getting in is different? why is even the fractals vortex at the beginning is now so slow moving and colorless?

Curius to see if this is a common thing with other experienced psychonauts!

Thanks
 
...My DMT trip used to be full of colors...
Now latetely, it all shift colors less... moslty black & white style, pulling me again to DMT space but the space itself and entities also appear now black & white style...
...will the holographics colors ever come back in a next trip? is it just the space or dimension I'm getting in is different? why is even the fractals vortex at the beginning is now so slow moving and colorless?

Curius to see if this is a common thing with other experienced psychonauts!

Thanks
Yes, black and white at the beginning.
What does it mean?
 
I suspect hyperspace stoners to be the culprits. They forgot to turn on the colors again. 🥴

I have not experienced a black and white trip before, however that sounds kind of cool. You said you have time to look around and feel more relaxed which is a bonus. Vibration and frequency. Perhaps you were at just the right vibration and frequency where the colors got tuned out for a short time. Like tuning a tv or something. We had an old TV when I was a kid that would snap into black and white from time to time. We would hit the TV on the sides and top a couple good whaps and it would go back to color again. Have you tried smacking yourself? LOL :p
 
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Yes, black and white at the beginning.
What does it mean?
In this case, it was a vibrant black and white, not dull, and not frightening. It began as a black, white and grey Escher-like pattern. Then there was a sort of mechanical snake-shape about 2 foot diameter coiling past with opaque symmetrical patterns around the whole side. The whole surrounding scene was black and white. The whole scene and coil eventually turned to colors as it continued to coil past. There was also some kind of language symbols on it. Then the coil rolled up and displayed like a 2d holo screen with language symbols running past like on a computer screen. It was trying to communicate a message. Who knows what in the world the message was.
It felt like being on a large alien ship.
The impression was that further disclosure is being repressed but not too far away. Whatever that means.

The space is regularly kind of art-deco, refined, similar patterns, sometimes foreign language symbols.
 
FWIW, which is probably nothing. When I used to do 5-Meo-DMT, higher doses would take me first to a kaleidoscope "tunnel". That tunnel was always kind of black and white, actually "muted pastels" (maybe). Anyway, it wasn't very bright and not vivid at all.

Now, on DMT lower doses it has evolved to be less of a bounty of colors and more color enhancement and kinda like actual changes in the quality of the reality perceived (hard to describe).
 
This morning, it started out all black!:
Yesterday I posted about experiencing black & white CVEs:

because some others were experiencing colorless, black and white CVEs.

This morning...everything began all black. All kinds of shades, gradients, shapes, etc of black, no colors, but very vivid. It was an epic pranking! Oh, you thought only black and white CVEs was unique and peculiar? How about this! I busted out laughing. The sense of humor was very personalized for me. Then all the colors came back and the scene turned to the message or narrative for which I was there. I won't go into those amazing details of the rest of the experience, but here are some takeaways suited for this forum:

1. I have not ever had a breakthrough, and while I was very interested in trying to do so months ago, the sub-breakthrough experiences are so rich and meaningful in themselves, I am not deliberately seeking breakthrough experiences. Most experiences are between 7 to 20mg with GVG. There have been unsuccessful attempts with MAOIs, but I am not strongly pursuing that for now.

2. I am on the fence as to whether the experiences are all just hallucinations in the mind, or if it is connecting with some other reality, consciousness or whatever. Is it just our own psyche, or something more? I have not had direct interaction with entities, but there tends to be a feeling or sense of the presence of another intelligence directing or controlling the experience, such as shadows, indirect images, corner of the mind's eye.

3. Sometimes, I am just stunned with the precision and personalization of the experience towards me and my life. The insights, observations, and new ideas--(especially in regards to relationships) that probably would not have occurred to me without the experience--are regularly poignant. Why the need for breakthrough, ego death, entity interaction, and so forth of higher doses when the sub-breakthrough doses are so rich and meaningful and personal?

4. I am Christian, and in half of a year or so, these experiences have forced me to adjust my world view to try to account for these experiences. It is not a cognitive dissonance for me, but a normal healthy happy adjustment. I consider these experiences incorporated as a part of my religious practice and beliefs. Early on these experiences were somewhat sinister. It still feels like a jester is sort of running the show, but the sense of terror or fear has not been an ongoing experience. As a Christian, I have soberly sought discernment and divine guidance as to truth or falsity or deception, good or bad, right or wrong, or the meaning or purpose of these experiences. I have tried to weigh and judge the experiences in a Christian sense as to whether and what fruit the experiences bear: good, bad, inspiring, demeaning, divine, demonic, etc. My religious conviction compels me to seek further. So far, on the whole, the experiences bear good fruit in my humble opinion. There are very few experiences or aspects that could be perceived as bad, but I'm still processing their meaning. I am very mindful about the possibility of the entire thing being devilish, deceptive, demonic, or otherwise evil. If I get the clear impression that this is devilish, deceptive, demonic, opening the way for hitchhikers, bad entities, possession, or evil then I will absolutely reject it going forward, call it out, including publicly if needed. So far, that has not been the case. So far, I have not had a "bad" trip either, but as I understand it, "bad" trips can eventually be overall good for us to confront aspects of ourselves, our thinking, our habits or relationships which need to be addressed, and presumably fixed. I do believe that the experience could present, good, negative, neutral, friendly, attacking or host of other entities and experiences at any time. As to the overall effect, I shall continue to monitor and discern or judge accordingly.

5. A healthy state of mind, set and setting, intentionality and deliberateness or prayer or meditation, and processing or integrating the experience afterwards are well practiced. I was humbled this time though in that it was pointed out to me that I have been failing to journal my experiences. I am missing out on the full effect because I have not been journaling. That includes describing, interpreting and even drawing the experience. I decided to do better, to get a journal and start keeping it. While so many of us are here to share our experiences, mine are often so personal, they are often too private or obtuse for me to share on a forum like this, but they warrant to be kept in a journal. I was also confronted or humbled with my inadequacy in describing, processing and drawing these experiences. How can something of such enormity and detail be captured and depicted fairly in a journal? But I will try.

6. These experiences absolutely are not for anyone with psychosis, like schizophrenia, taking SSRIs or other questionable mental state of health. There were some negative experiences with a close friend of mine on an SSRI who did not take psychedelics but ended up spending over a week on two different occasions in a mental health unit, related to my experiences. I'm still trying to process those strange events. I suspect she may have some latent mental or spiritual abilities.

7. Perhaps we all have some weakness that might lend us to be more or less flippant about the experiences at times. Recreationally for some, I guess? I would compare it to loving wealthy parents giving a sixteen year old a very high end vehicle. How are you going to use it, abuse it, crash it, or appreciate and treasure the gift? Not that I claim any great prowess, but gratitude and humility also seem to be key character traits to making valuable use of this gift. Thank you, Father God, for this opportunity.

8. What is this experience?! As if regular life, philosophy, religion, and science were not complex or complicated enough, DMT (whether its just hallucination or a gateway to another realm, or etc) is so profound, it demands to be explored as a critical function of what it means to be human and alive.

9. I wish I had a trusted IRL peer or partner to share and confide in this experience. I likely will never attempt a breakthrough dose without a trusted sitter.

I hope this post is of use, especially for the rookies, as am I. Cheers and regards, fellow travelers.
 
How good is your mind's eye when sober? It took me 40 years to discover aphantasia. That is the lack of ability to form an actual visual image in the mind with eyes closed. I have it.

I have zero ability to conjure a visual mental image. I also have no inner monologue. I was amazed to find out that most people do. I do dream normally. I also have a 'mind's song'. That is to say I can hear actual audible music in my mind at times.

Anyhow, you can test yourself by thinking of an apple. There are varying levels from a perfect crisp apple, to duller and blurry, to just outlines and then zero image.

I also have uncommon trips I believe due to aphantasia
 
How good is your mind's eye when sober? It took me 40 years to discover aphantasia. That is the lack of ability to form an actual visual image in the mind with eyes closed. I have it.

I have zero ability to conjure a visual mental image. I also have no inner monologue. I was amazed to find out that most people do. I do dream normally. I also have a 'mind's song'. That is to say I can hear actual audible music in my mind at times.

Anyhow, you can test yourself by thinking of an apple. There are varying levels from a perfect crisp apple, to duller and blurry, to just outlines and then zero image.

I also have uncommon trips I believe due to aphantasia
Never heard of aphantasia before, did some research after reading your post, from what I get, I may have partial aphantasia, for example, if I try to picture an red apple, I kind of feel the look of the look and presence of that apple in my mind but dont actually see it, more like I mantaly picture it without seeing actual image in my mind, when in a relax or meditation state, or when on psychedelic though, I can see clear vision in my mind, but the vision come and go without any control of what I see, in lucid dream state, I cvan get crystal clear and very detailed images, wich, according to chatgpt, may be sign of a partial aphantasia as I can't seem to conciously picture something, the in other states my mind can still show me clear images which suggest that the ability is there but havent learned how to conciousely use it,

Very interesting and kind of make sense now
 
I had two experiences recently while working with the medicine and union with God through it where everything was color, than switched to black and white and then color again. Each time a different thing happened in that space that I was clearing.

What are you doing leading up to each experience, what is the power of the call to it and how is your life itself actually doing? Also, what is your current, yoga, meditation, Ophanim Yoga, Qi Gong practice like? If you don't have one, doing one regularly keeps things flowing (as does taking a shower and turning the water cold after for about 5 minutes as it energetically cleanses the body).
 
Forgot who it was, but the aphantasia thing was suggested by another nexus member when I had a similar question once. I'd never heard of it before
 
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