Why focus on breaking through?

[TrustLoveMan]

When I first started my journeys I was more focused on breaking-through then learning from my experiences. This was bad for me because it made me treat spice like a drug. I just kept increasing my dose. I thought that the stronger the trip, the more I would learn. This is not true. I have made amazingly visual trips where I did not learn or grow at all. I've had trips where I didn't see anything but I learned about myself in a substantial way.
A common question on this forum is, "Did I breakthrough?". The better question would be "Did I learn what the message was?".

 

[RigelL]

You can´t imagine how happy this thread of yours just made me I remember perfectly your first posts and i felt that you were not dealing with it properly ( the obcession with breaking through, dissapointment for "being denid access", multiple launches a day, everyday, just to get there). Very glad you have changed your point of view! Low doses can be brutal or very mellow but they really can teach you as much as a blastoff.

Peace

 

[KwisatzHaderach]

I was gonna say as well that I thoroughly enjoy the attitude in this post. For many members, it is all about the breakthrough. I think in a sense to justify, beyond a doubt, that you fully experienced it. But really, that's all it is anyway. An experience. Experience everything in life as you wish because after all, experience is the only measure of your own personal journey. And if you keep that mindset about everything, you will always be aware, taking everything in everyday and appreciating it. Anyway, what's that saying again? It's about the journey not the destination, right?

thankyou

 

[soulfood]

I can well and truly say I've never been a breakthrough junkie.

There was a time when I first started my relationship with DMT where I'd be vaping small doses, then I would happen upon many words about people saying, "If I want to know the true nature of the molecule, you have to dose higher". Well it was all very interesting, euphoric, humbling and all the rest of that, but it wasn't until I went back down to lower doses that I felt I was interacting with that headspace.

Large doses are all DMT speaking, with little chance for me to even think about what it is I'm seeing/hearing/feeling and what are the reasons for the why. Sure a high dose silences the voice within and makes one face that pure surrender which yeah, it can be quite positively therapeutic, but when I'm just enough in there to still be able to think and feel, I realise this stuff sharpens my mind in a way a chemical never has before. How I can really enjoy my own thoughts and actually consider long enough to actually except this new perspective. I've never before experienced such an efficent analytical way of looking at and re-evaluating myself and changing my personal and world view to be more in the now and less in the then.

I imagine some day I will probably venture out into that deep inside realm to humble myself once more, but when I do it will probably be a part of something bigger. My prefered method of consumption these days is to brew a good non-admixture ayahuasca and then to periodically vape small amounts of spice and this way requires very little, it's not about what I can see as much as what I feel and it gets the job done. But I imagine a reset button could be a vital tool in this ritual at some point in my future, as with psilocybin cubensis my greatest teacher was death. But see, the thing about death is, he only has to speak once, so when he does I really want to make sure I'm listening.

 

[ragabr]

I definitely believe that there is a ton of value in the sub-breakthrough realm, particularly with changa. SWIM reported a (relatively) long period, where no matter how much changa she had, she couldn't break through. This time of work really focused around the carrier wave, finding areas in her energetic body that didn't respond to it, and slowly opening them up to it. After she could engage with it with her whole body, she started finding denser levels of information embedded within it. For sure, she has no idea what any of this means but it seemed really valuable and important at the time and honestly think her emotional life has greatly improved from it.

After a lot of breakthrough work, she did a couple of low doses and realized that her mind was composing music... she's not an accomplished musician by any means, but has started getting very interested in trying to bring an approximation of this music back.

Long winded way of saying that all levels of the DMT experience have vast riches to explore if one mindfully engages with it.

Cheers.

 

[kyrolima]

If i want to GAIN a certain result, like breaking trough, i'm building up walls inside me, which prevent certain things to happen to me!

Who in the world does want to limit his experience?

We love the experience of DMT, but more important is our selves!

 

[Praline]

I will frequently smoke small doses to get a better perspective on life. I do just enough to let my body dissolve and get a peek under the curtain, as it is. To be honest, I have never had a true breakthrough, but the entities are always very welcoming and invite me to "do more next time". I have had only one bad experience, and took a break for several weeks. When I went back it was a powerful sub-breakthrough vision. I experienced transport entities that were wrapping my body up and pulling me down a long tube, all in complete silence. No breakthrough, but still very meaningful to me. These small excursions help me a lot with my chronic malaise and melancholy.

 

[TrustLoveMan]

After a lot of breakthrough work, she did a couple of low doses and realized that her mind was composing music... she's not an accomplished musician by any means, but has started getting very interested in trying to bring an approximation of this music back.

That's awesome, the same thing happened to me. After I discovered dubstep I had done about 30mg and I found myself making an incredible song. I'm actually leaning ableton live and massive synthesizer right now.

I haven't done DMT in a while but I'm planning on getting caapi early next month. I'm interested in the effects of changa and maybe even some THH freebase. I think I will get much more out of my experiences with my improved outlook. Thank you everyone who has given me advice on this forum.:d