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Hello, i done extraction with this teks "Cybs' Hybrid ATB 'Salt' Tek" but i dont see any visions. Yesterday i smoked like 30-40ml, i feel like some shaman soul got inside me and she done something weird things on my smoking bottle(with my body i was observer watching my body doing something stuff before i dont know ). then she called my died mother and i talked with my mom. sounds like this and was very happy. today i do it again but i relaized im doing this movements and acting my mom voice to me, actually im talking with my self. and i feel like im dying. i see some tiny visions like pixels everywhere like universe is hologram. is i done wrong with this tek. why i dont see any colorfull shapes?

here is my extraction result;

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Some people like the nmt so maybe I did give him poor advice. I find pure nn dmt to be more superior and uplifting but everyone is different. I have a feeling that most of the people that say they like the nmt are the ones that cant get mimosa hostilis.
 
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Squatting Bear said:
Some people like the nmt so maybe I did give him poor advice. I find pure nn dmt to be more superior and uplifting but everyone is different. I have a feeling that most of the people that say they like the nmt are the ones that cant get mimosa hostilis.
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lol!
are you experienced, have you ever been experienced..?
well, i know..i have...

Ps..visions are not the 'deep' aspect of an experience
 
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OP, from my experience DMT does not have to be nice colors and shapes to be beneficial. In fact I have a feeling some great work can come from the uncomfortable experiences.

Instead of expecting anything going in, and wondering why you didn't see or get a certain experience, analyze the experience you did get.
Let your mind drift in thought inspired by the experience. The message or revelation you get may or may not be seemingly related to your trip.


I definitely second getting a better smoking/vaping device and including hamalas in some form as well. I recommend a GVG for vaping.
 
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Seeing how I have extracted and consumed dmt from both acacia confusa and mimosa hostilis, yes I am. I never said that dmt had to be nice colors and shapes to be beneficial and I'm not trying to pick a fight with you guys haha. I have a sherlock GVG on its way to my house as we speak.
 
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Jees said:
Squatting Bear said:
O you're probably right. But to me a re-x is a must. I want the cleanest most pure experience possible. 8)
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Please send all the *impurities* nmt and dmt oxide to me ;)
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Indeed. I've tried my spice like that and re-xed and much prefer the more reddish stuff - it is certainly no less potent!

OP, I'd consume orally as pharmahuasca - less variables involved.
 
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nen888 said:
Ps..visions are not the 'deep' aspect of an experience
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Love that track/album. :D

It's funny to see so many people talking in terms of extraction/dosage/etc... Perhaps maybe they missed the portion of the OP where the poster describes an incredibly deep, moving DMT experience... And then proceeds to ask why he wasn't seeing pretty shapes and colors.

There is obviously nothing at all wrong with the product or dosage; He did it *just right*... The problem is that he was expecting a carnival ride, when what he got was an authentic and powerful experience the likes of which he may not again see this side of the yawning grave.

Perhaps we should be remarking on how absurd it is that our culture could produce such a mythos around such a powerful substance, that its users consider pretty colors and shapes to be the aspect of the experience worth seeking.
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And I'd like to toss my hat in as a potential recipient of all that NMT or oxide that you don't want... Because if you're using drugs to manifest intention, those are tools just as valuable as DMT.
It's the intention that matters, the drug is merely a tool... Just as how the yolk and plow are only as valuable as the furrow they dig, and worthless without the will of the ox.
 
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Squatting Bear said:
Some people like the nmt so maybe I did give him poor advice. I find pure nn dmt to be more superior and uplifting but everyone is different. I have a feeling that most of the people that say they like the nmt are the ones that cant get mimosa hostilis.
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I've extracted from both, but now my go-to is acacia for a number of reasons...mostly sustainability. I enjoy the dimension NMT adds to the experience, but I and many others have found that it tends to keep you more grounded than pure NN-DMT on its own. Breakthroughs with a full spectrum extract, while intense and beautiful and interesting in their own right, seem to lack the depth and utter insanity of purified DMT that makes it such a powerful and unique substance.

I find NMT valuable, I like it and it's not because I don't have access to mimosa. But when push comes to shove I agree with you. Purified DMT is in a league of its own.

To the OP, a re-x is never a bad idea but it's not entirely necessary if you performed the extraction properly, as others are saying. Your DMT looks fine to me, but if you have the time and energy to do a re-x I would never tell someone not to do it. When you're cooking up drugs in a kitchen you honestly can never be too careful.

And no, seeing pretty colors is not the epitome of the experience. I know people who can eat a few gram of mushrooms or a solid 200-300 mics of acid and not experience the typical psychedelic visuals that people often expect. Psychedelics aren't cool because they make you see pretty colors. They're cool because of the way they make you think.
 
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I had an experience where I smoked an unknown amount of DMT. I had very intense visuals. About an hour later I tried smoking the same batch of DMT with my girlfriend and we both reported little effects, even after we continued to try to smoke. It might have been they way we were vaporizing it or another reason. But IMO this drug is very picky. I feel as if it decides for you, almost like its choosing your fate.
 
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I_am_Tripping said:
I had an experience where I smoked an unknown amount of DMT. I had very intense visuals. About an hour later I tried smoking the same batch of DMT with my girlfriend and we both reported little effects, even after we continued to try to smoke. It might have been they way we were vaporizing it or another reason. But IMO this drug is very picky. I feel as if it decides for you, almost like its choosing your fate.
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The short term tolerance of spice is known to those who know :?
It's the same reason why few partial hits cannot breaktrough like 1 hit can.
 
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Hello guys, thank you for all of ur interests and help to me! i read all of ur great offers to me. i tried my dmt extractions vaults with my friends. i gave them all of 50mg of dmt without re-x. They did awesome journey while dmt trip (even one of them travelled around AFRICA like hes soul was in a bug, he saw working african males there what aawesome trip). But me again same (was) :)) but. i tried out dmt weeks and weeks! finnaly i dont have any fear of to smoke DMT (first high dosage i was ready to die (truthly accepting to die, already im thinking of suicide sometimes)). Im tottally comfortable with that and im open minded now. But my vissions like (used 60-70mg) im healing my mind and finnaly i see visuals!. really sounds like i was shaman and im healing myself :) i think i will finnaly understand "let go". i will update this topic when i done "let go". so much thank you all of you guys.
 
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pitubo said:
Irony, you may most of all need to learn to let go. Let go of your expectations of what the dmt experience is like. It is personal and it is different and changing all the time. Let go of your worries about your mother's reaction. It is your life, not hers. Let go of your fear to confront your fears.

It may help you a bit if you are able to create an environment for smoking where you are certain that you will not be disturbed. Doing some breathing exercises beforehand, to relax your body and mind and saturate your body with oxygen, may also be beneficial. Focus not on inhaling deeply, but on exhaling deeply. Inhaling will come automatically. With the exhalations should come progressive relaxation. When you are fully relaxed and loaded up on oxygen, you are ready to smoke the dmt.

Smoking from a sheet of aluminium foil is really not recommended. It is very hard not to burn the dmt and burning dmt has by some people been reported to produce "darker" experiences. If you don't want to buy a fancy "vapor genie" device, look into building your own "the machine". Searching the forum will show you more information. Basically it involves melting a dose of dmt onto steel or copper sponge, placing that in any regular smoking pipe, putting more metal sponge on top (to temper the flames from the lighter so that only hot air and not flames reach the dmt) and inhaling the flame from a lighter or torch lighter through it.

I don't agree with Squatting Bear to load up larger amounts of dmt than necessary. Instead it is better to start small and to increase the dose gradually.

The harmala that some people mentioned should be easily found in your place. Look for Üzerlik. Be aware that if you have smoked or eaten harmala, the dmt may act cumulatively. After an initial dose, only a very small amount is needed for a second dose to take effect. If you take oral dmt + harmala, the trip will last much longer than when you smoke, so in that case it is even more important to not take too much at once, but to learn your dose by working up gradually.

Just take your time. There is no hurry.
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Thank you for great advice to me! i did what u said and i see visuals but im feeling my soul stuck in my skull :) my soul trying to out from skull. im not afraid of it anymore!
 
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