Why is No One Breaking Through?

[LoccdatDMT]

I bought a vg from my local headshop and bought a mg scale. I have dosed myself along with a few of my friends and have not experienced a breakthrough on some of the highest dosages of 80mg! i either make a bed of parsley or weed then dmt then more herbs on top so it dosent burn. My spice is white with almost no impurities. They smoke all of it with no dmt left behind and when they come back they dont even know if they have broken through or just tripped a little:wink: Maybe a tolerance to tripping maybe?? because me n my friends do very high doses of mushrooms and lsd. Can anyone give a helping hand??

 

[Compound37]

No brother. Its not a tolerance to tripping. A lot of the members here are VERY experienced with psychs like lsd and mushrooms. As well as many others.

Its important to hold the hits in as long as possible. I've heard that ten seconds is the MINIMUM length. Make sure your using your vg properly. Take all hits one right after the other, make each hit as big as possible.

Let go into the experience.

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

Well there is a waning super moon and maybe the wrong planets are in retrograde, face opposite directions when you toke.

 

[Pup Tentacle]

I had a regular VG before getting a GVG and there's certainly a little technique to be learned (with both but more with the kind you can't see through).

I will say that practicing is super-fun, lol, and you'll get there eventually. The scenery along the way to breaking through is WELL-WORTH paying attention to IMHO.

Good Luck & Blessings!

 

[Compound37]

^lol soulcrushingbase. I personally find backwards, standing on my hands, and NOT thinking of the word hippo works best during retrograde periods.

Oh, and you'll KNOW when you breakthrough. There will not be ANY questioning that.

 

[mush_mage]

How powdery is your spice? Has it been recrystallized? I had a similar problem a while ago and it was because I got lazy and didn't recrystallize. Once I did this and grew some lovely big pure crystal structures I had absolutely no trouble breaking through on 30mg and less. I was convinced I had developed tolerance, burned out my 3rd eye, etc etc. After 2 months of no breakthroughs and mainly body highs I was finally given an experience that blew away my first time (which was amazing). So I came to the conclusion that the issue was the purity of the dmt.

So my advice is keep refining until your product is as pure as it can be and then hyperspace should be just around the corner.

mush

 

[MooshyPeaches]

Chances are you're using a basic BIC lighter and instead of vaporizing most of the DMT, it is melting and slipping through the screens into the actual pipe itself. You can use a torch lighter (works best with GVG) or get more screens...which you could even heat up a couple of them and place the DMT on the mesh of screens so it melts a little and will vaporize when you put the top of the VG on.

Besides that, perhaps try changing your breathing technique and see if pulling air thru harder or very lightly to find the sweet-spot of vaping and smoking it into your lungs.

-if your putting 80mg in and not seeing any after smoking AND not tripping, it is melting through the screen guaranteed. You can also put a bed of parsley on the screens in the VG (not on the top).

goodluck

 

[Met]

No brother. Its not a tolerance to tripping. A lot of the members here are VERY experienced with psychs like lsd and mushrooms. As well as many others.

Its important to hold the hits in as long as possible. I've heard that ten seconds is the MINIMUM length. Make sure your using your vg properly. Take all hits one right after the other, make each hit as big as possible.

Let go into the experience.

Yes it's indeed not a question of tolerance, since DMT doesn't really produces any. Own experience also...

But I wouldn't say it is really important to hold in the hits as long as possible, at least not ten seconds minimum. I have, and friends also have smoked it - holding the spice not even 5 seconds in (because some cannot stand the taste of the spice and had to cough), but still it worked perfectly fine. Ok let's say maybe its better to hold it in longer, but not necessarily a must (after my experience). But I always take about 3-4 hits from the bong, maybe if you want to take everything in 1 single hit it makes sense to hold it in longer.

 

[Compound37]

I agree Met that its not necessary.

But IME when dosing friends who are saying they don't feel anything, or very little from spice, I generally offer the ten second mark as a goal. That way when they start coughing at 7 they've hopefully already gotten enough into their blood in that one hit to hopefully blast them right off into hyperspace.

The longer you hold something in, the more chance you have of getting more of the active things in the smoke/vapor into your blood. Ever zero out weed hits? Hold them in until no smoke comes out at all? Gets you way higher than just smoking and exhaling right away.....

Thats what I based this ten second minimum strategy on. Same thing I always tell new weed smokers to do when hitting a bowl of pot the first time.

 

[Global]

You don't need the extra layer of herb on top for protecting the DMT from burning. It can take the heat you'll give it through the ceramic filter, and it needs it. I would bet removing the top layer of herb will create some noticeable increase in efficiency.

 

[amazingino]

You don't need the extra layer of herb on top for protecting the DMT from burning. It can take the heat you'll give it through the ceramic filter, and it needs it. I would bet removing the top layer of herb will create some noticeable increase in efficiency.

this.

1) Start heating it until you see some vapour coming.
2) Stop heating and exhale
3) Heat again and inhale slowlyyyyyyy and deeply (DON'T burn the DMT with constant fire)
4) Take all in and count to 10
5) Enjoy

P.S. Start low, something like 20mg and add 10mg at a time, 80mg if done right will send you to Mars. For info, I break through on 15mg as I am very sensitive to spice (7-10mg with harmalas)

 

[BobBobson]

Oh, and you'll KNOW when you breakthrough. There will not be ANY questioning that.

I have been so fkd from a DMT hit that I felt myself to be:

Actually, an alien entity in human form.

Hit with 1000 doses of forbidden knowledge all at once, and unable to muster any kind of response other than 'does it really matter?'

Felt myself to be flying and spinning around a multicoloured three dimensional soup full of geometric shapes.......of which I could control the movement off.

I came out of that in a cold sweat and trembling to the bone.

Does that count as a 'breakthrough'.......if so, all I can say is that a breakthrough is simply just an infintely bigger headfuck than a milder dose is.

Only time I have felt peaceful and euphoric on DMt has been when I have been on MDMA at the time I took the hit....otherwise for me....the stuff is just Mental.

 

[morphos]

Just my two cents dude: But have you tried angling your vg? I find it works best stem to the sky and bowl to the wall -that way none of your spice leaks out the bottom of the bowl due to gravity when heated. Also IMO you have to get a good inhilation technique. Personally I take 3 super deep draws and I don't breathe air between draws -just DMT. For example: Take a lung filling mega draw. Hold. Exhale completely. Hold lungs empty -don't breathe air. Light up inhale lung filling mega draw 2. Hold. Exhale. (its usually around this point that things feel pretty strange) Go for number 3 if the VG still seems real to you at this point^^.

But another thing. Do you close your eyes? I find that almost always I have to trip closed eyes first before i'm tripping open eye. Its like it needs a little ceremony...a little coaxing?^^ Usually I pass the pipe to someone sober close my eyes and sit cross legged in a chair...sometimes lotus if i'm feeling funky^^ Saying that though I've had heroic doses do nothing if set and setting are too annoying/distracting and have had mild doses blow my head off so I suppose its got lots to do with internal and external distractions.


Have you tried doing it alone? Say in a dimly or brightly lit room for example? Your friends may be distracting you or you them depending on what you/they are thinking. If you're thinking I must look pretty funny with my eyes closed the experience will not be so good. Avoid focussing on your current situation/place in time/what you might be perceived as. Forget everything and just focus on what seems to be happening to you. Also rather importantly get everyone to shut up. If your friends are saying feel anything yet? You'll feel nothing because they are grounding you. 10 mins total silence/music only. For me this is the fastest way to breakthrough.

If you truly try all that and nothing works then i'd suspect the spice is a poor product

 

[LoccdatDMT]

Thank you all so much for the reply and help. i will try all of these different techniques and see the result and let you know and btw does recrystallizing your spice get you higher? or is it just cleaner? my spice is fluffy powder and not even crystals right now.

 

[Compound37]

It's fluffy white crystal flakes.

Re-x just makes it cleaner, safer. Two of my friends swear to love yellow spice far more than white.

 

[LoccdatDMT]

well i just smoked a low dose quickie and it definitely works alot better without a bowl on top of the dmt.:d cant wait to try a full dose

 

[SoulCrushingBass]

It's fluffy white crystal flakes.

Re-x just makes it cleaner, safer. Two of my friends swear to love yellow spice far more than white.

Yuck!!! I tried both. Yellow is not mello. I would rather eat my aunts spaghetti.

 

[mush_mage]

Thank you all so much for the reply and help. i will try all of these different techniques and see the result and let you know and btw does recrystallizing your spice get you higher? or is it just cleaner? my spice is fluffy powder and not even crystals right now.

I find the larger crystals vaporize better and the purer the spice the much easier it is to breakthrough.

 

[changalvia]

I honestly believe its not only a matter of whether or not you did it correctly, if you read my report "Re-allowed Entry" you should see what I'm talking about. This stuff is so erratic. It will do with you what it wants, when it wants, and I think that is based on your own intentions. It can sense them. Its got a mind of its own Anybody there to disprove me? I'd appreciate some hardcore facts to prove my personal experiences wrong because it confuses the 621311 out of me

 

[tele]

I suggest you load the freebase on something else, like copper mesh screen. Then use torch lighter and apply proper temperature, inhale as long as possible and keep in the lungs as long as possible. Technique is necessary for success