Rivaq's Matilda
Rising Star
I am having some thinking done in me, about names in the modern western context. Names of the skill set(s) and habitual reliance upon those skill set(s). Perhaps specific words can be found to have specific orientations of Set and Setting, aligned with names practitioners have identified with. Or rather, aligned with individuals as defined by their acceptance of the label they are inhabiting, as a skill “set”.
For example, Terrence McKenna identified as an academic, instead of holding himself in any other kind of identification pattern, and persons who engage in use of psychedelics in connection with listening to his lectures, have a stronger orientation towards academic qualifications. We don't always know what is cause and what is effect, for example, question does academia lead the process of naming, or does the process of naming lead academia.
I am inviting the dmt-nexus community to use this thread to discuss what word names, of any person's skill set, are applicable, (before we might just choose to rest in the title of having a skill set). For example, the skill set of a “psychonaut”, seems to hold the meaning of having had multiple breakthrough psychedelic experiences within a Westernized mindset, (and potentially in that the Westernized mindset needed to be unravelled before breaking through). That is when compared and contrasted with the common place use of a word like “Ayahuascero” as used in Peru, meaning could be good could be bad, but will have Ayahuasca available.
Where I am coming from, is the point of view of having just read and re-read, the DMT-Nexus Hyperspace Lexicon, and noted a particular absence of meaning, which is likely to be rather only lack of overt statement of meaning. Most indigenous cultures, have indications within the names of the entities we may experience meeting, that sometimes the exact entity we meet in hyperspace, (aka Dreamtime or Dreaming or Jukurrupla in Warlpiri lingo, reading the indigenous use of the english word “dream” to be simultaneously metaphoric, and true and real in connotation, with “The Dreaming” translated often as being in all time simultaneous, combined with the locations at which we may realise The Dreaming is reality), might walk up and shake hands. Perhaps I am only questioning myself as to why, when straight spice is the substance, overtness becomes less possible. Perhaps I need to question myself this before I smoke spice straight, perhaps, . . .
I don't know if I am thinking of the possibility of collectively expanding any word, or category of words, currently in the DMT-Nexus Hyperspace lexicon, into a subset of words that might be applicable to my point, that the intergration process of meeting entities, already happens frequently within many indigenous cultures, and thus we ought not expect it is not already happening among spice folk using this forum. Perhaps there is already too much fear of being locked into erroneous social definitions of insanity. (A useful definition of insanity I got given, is that it is any state of mind entered into a long time before enough other persons can also enter into a similar enough state of mind and corroborate it is real.)
Clearly also, awarding any ability to improve anybody's health, to any such word as those we might have in mind, related to an Earthly skill set, and also related to any particular entity, (and knowing it is normal that half of us witness the Earthly presence first before Hyperspace, while half witness the Hyperspace existence first before the Earthbound, and less than 10% won't connect the Earthly with the Hyperspace, although many traditional indigenous shaman believe that connection is always eventually made for everybody, but maybe through an unusual “channel”), can't be observed, because we can't claim any fact of health giving without the full seal of approval of Western Medical Science and Legislators combined. Yet neither might we presume anybody with a doctorate of Western Medical Science, to be more able than any specific psychonaut in navigating hyperspace.
My own experiential reality, all Earth bound, of the names I know, that manifest in both Hyperspace and at Earth, I'll put into another post below, so folk can skim past all that perhaps, down to the last paragraph, which ought flow OK from this post without disrupting your own point of view. Then is a third post with some quotes from the 'Anthropology of Consciousness' journal.
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For example, Terrence McKenna identified as an academic, instead of holding himself in any other kind of identification pattern, and persons who engage in use of psychedelics in connection with listening to his lectures, have a stronger orientation towards academic qualifications. We don't always know what is cause and what is effect, for example, question does academia lead the process of naming, or does the process of naming lead academia.
I am inviting the dmt-nexus community to use this thread to discuss what word names, of any person's skill set, are applicable, (before we might just choose to rest in the title of having a skill set). For example, the skill set of a “psychonaut”, seems to hold the meaning of having had multiple breakthrough psychedelic experiences within a Westernized mindset, (and potentially in that the Westernized mindset needed to be unravelled before breaking through). That is when compared and contrasted with the common place use of a word like “Ayahuascero” as used in Peru, meaning could be good could be bad, but will have Ayahuasca available.
Where I am coming from, is the point of view of having just read and re-read, the DMT-Nexus Hyperspace Lexicon, and noted a particular absence of meaning, which is likely to be rather only lack of overt statement of meaning. Most indigenous cultures, have indications within the names of the entities we may experience meeting, that sometimes the exact entity we meet in hyperspace, (aka Dreamtime or Dreaming or Jukurrupla in Warlpiri lingo, reading the indigenous use of the english word “dream” to be simultaneously metaphoric, and true and real in connotation, with “The Dreaming” translated often as being in all time simultaneous, combined with the locations at which we may realise The Dreaming is reality), might walk up and shake hands. Perhaps I am only questioning myself as to why, when straight spice is the substance, overtness becomes less possible. Perhaps I need to question myself this before I smoke spice straight, perhaps, . . .
I don't know if I am thinking of the possibility of collectively expanding any word, or category of words, currently in the DMT-Nexus Hyperspace lexicon, into a subset of words that might be applicable to my point, that the intergration process of meeting entities, already happens frequently within many indigenous cultures, and thus we ought not expect it is not already happening among spice folk using this forum. Perhaps there is already too much fear of being locked into erroneous social definitions of insanity. (A useful definition of insanity I got given, is that it is any state of mind entered into a long time before enough other persons can also enter into a similar enough state of mind and corroborate it is real.)
Clearly also, awarding any ability to improve anybody's health, to any such word as those we might have in mind, related to an Earthly skill set, and also related to any particular entity, (and knowing it is normal that half of us witness the Earthly presence first before Hyperspace, while half witness the Hyperspace existence first before the Earthbound, and less than 10% won't connect the Earthly with the Hyperspace, although many traditional indigenous shaman believe that connection is always eventually made for everybody, but maybe through an unusual “channel”), can't be observed, because we can't claim any fact of health giving without the full seal of approval of Western Medical Science and Legislators combined. Yet neither might we presume anybody with a doctorate of Western Medical Science, to be more able than any specific psychonaut in navigating hyperspace.
My own experiential reality, all Earth bound, of the names I know, that manifest in both Hyperspace and at Earth, I'll put into another post below, so folk can skim past all that perhaps, down to the last paragraph, which ought flow OK from this post without disrupting your own point of view. Then is a third post with some quotes from the 'Anthropology of Consciousness' journal.
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