Wonderful experience with 'ass-huasca' (Oral harmalas + plugged dmt acetate)

[fog]

Hey folks,

So last night I took 190mg freebase rue extract in orange juice orally. I have experimented with this kind of dose before and by itself it doesn't cause any nausea for me. From experience this peaks around 1.5 hours in for me. After 1.5 hours I plugged 80mg of my full spectrum freebase Acacia acuminata goo extract disolved in 1ml vinegar and diluted with 4ml water. From vaping the extract and previous experiments vaping crystals I would estimate it is 75-85% pure dmt. I went with the plugging route because my one previous pharma attempt resulted in an almost instant purge and no effects. I weigh 70kg.

I wasn't sure what to expect from the dose. I estimated that with the slower absorption it might equal a 50mg vaped (best/worst case scenario). Now I don't think such a comparison makes sense. I don't have a lot of experience vaping. I have only ever managed to vape around 25mg which produced quite detailed CEV's and some very simple entities (bouncing balls of light giving my dome a scrub). However I still felt very grounded (dare I say, sober?).

This experience by comparison was much more similar to a moderate dose of mushrooms or lsd, with the cognitive and emotional effects that they produce. On the other hand it seemed much more vibrant and energetic.

Rather than a dive, it felt like water slowly rising around/within me. At 10 minutes I was worried it wasn't working at all. At 20 minutes I was excited to see how deep I would go. I probably peaked around 35 minutes and at 60 minutes I decided to open my eyes. I definitely did not reach hyperspace but I could feel its potential. I kept getting quick intense bursts of psychedelic energy. CEV's were a bit hazy and not super well defined.

This was a great trip. I felt wonderful, listened to music, reflected on my life, had some interesting visuals. It seems to resonate with me even more than mushrooms (which I love). I'm really excited to explore this ROA further. Zero nausea, very workable duration. I had mostly come down around 3 hours after the dmt. I'm thinking for my next dose the same harmala dose and maybe 130mg goo. I think this will get me to hyperspace. I know I could increase the harmala dose but I want to keep a similar duration.

Plugging is underrated in my opinion. Probably gets a bad rep from peoples failed attempts without MAOI and insufficient dmt.

 

[pete666]

I am glad to see other people are trying this ROA too. I believe this is the best ROA for both dmt and mescaline.

You are lucky if your harmala extract is pure and you don't have any nausea with 190mg. My limit is about 100mg (oral) and anything above usually causes some kind of nausea, which is disturbing in the hyperspace. Fortunately 100mg is enough to prepare my body (85kg) for the spice.
100mg of pure dmt freebase in vinegar is enough to cause a blackout, so something between 60-80mg is the right strong dose for me.
After 10 minutes I am usually quite immersed, almost gone.

I am not sure waiting for 1,5hrs is the right way to go. I would apply the spice 30 minutes after the harmalas. Why not join the peak both for harmalas and the light?

 

[fog]

hi pete. It seems I'm not absorbing it as fast as yourself. I wonder if im using too much liquid? I later read people recommending 1-2ml for some other drugs.

As for the harmalas, I find them to last many hours with an extended peak (although I didn't consider if the maoi effects and mental effects necessarily align), so I was trying to join the peaks as you say. I was also expecting the dmt to kick in a bit faster. I might try 1 hour next time. It's also nice to know my stomach has truly settled just in case.

I'm sorry you had a blackout. Do you remember much much of the experience before or after blacking out?

Yeah there's a lot of factors to consider. I don't know the exact purity of my goo. But at least I'll be dosing from the same batch. Either way i just did the calculation and a 60% increase is probably too much. Im just keen to dive in hahaha but I should be patient.

 

[pete666]

hi pete. It seems I'm not absorbing it as fast as yourself. I wonder if im using too much liquid? I later read people recommending 1-2ml for some other drugs.

Maybe the dmt from the goo is being absorbed slower than pure dmt. Maybe it is even not absorbed all. Maybe you've lost some water(so dmt) and maybe something got locked within the excreta.

I would suggest using as little of water/vinegar as possible. Yes, I usually do 1ml or 2ml. Inject it far enough, I am using 2ml syringe and it is wholly iserted. And apply after defecation.

As for the harmalas, I find them to last many hours with an extended peak (although I didn't consider if the maoi effects and mental effects necessarily align),

Ok then, for me they don't last very long, likely due to the lower dose.

I'm sorry you had a blackout. Do you remember much much of the experience before or after blacking out?

No problem at all, I've got more of them I like to touch the limits with psychedelics so I know what's the range and where to keep.
With 100mg of light and 100mg of harmala HCl, I would say I remembered about 5% of the experience. With 100mg of light and 300mg of moclobemide it migh be about 1%.
But upon getting first contact with reality on return, I always saw the experience was fully there, it was just too far to bring it here and lost it.

Yeah there's a lot of factors to consider. I don't know the exact purity of my goo. But at least I'll be dosing from the same batch. Either way i just did the calculation and a 60% increase is probably too much. Im just keen to dive in hahaha but I should be patient.

Not bad idea to go one step further and try to purify, so you have white dmt. Though not necessary.

Just please bear in mind you don't want any infection there, so sterilize everything as much as possible (at least 5 minutes boiling within microwave).

 

[rOm]

I did also do moclobemide 300mg orally and I had aleft over evap dish of DMT,Ijust added vinegar and water in it, so I didn't weight but I would say it was low dose like 30mg more or less. that was end of july when I did that.

Without harmalas or RIMAs, you can also find this is theperfect ROA for synthetic 5 MeO DMT. You may start at 5 mg and increase to 10 to 15 mg of the 5.
I have to try again with mescaline as far as I remember I wasn't succesful using this ROA but maybe it was too much water and it was cactea. I do'nt remember, been years too.

 

[Felnik]

He said ass -ahuasca