Working with sexual abstinence

[Global]

Aside of fasting in the morning, and vomiting sometime thereafter during my last aya experience a couple weeks ago when I had my white light/godhead experience, the last thing I did before I loaded up my GVG to blast me off into that experience was ejaculating which was one of the strongest ejaculations I've ever had. In retrospect, later that day, I viewed the act as another part of the purge allowing me to go further into the experience than I had ever thought I would be able to get.

 

[polytrip]

I don't think sexual abstinence itself is cleansing or special in any way. I think it rather is the fact that you CAN choose not to indulge in pleasure that matters. Self-control is an important thing.
The famous japanese saying about this goes:"when i stood at the liquorstore i wasn't thirsty, but my feet just walked inside".
The more you become self-aware, the more you'll be able to stop your feet (or other parts of your body) from 'just doing' something.
And that most definately IS cleansing.

People who, on the other hand stay sexually abstinent because they think sex is bad are not in control at all. And when they encounter feelings they've been running away from all their life, their feet and other parts of their body, just take them straight to hell: Think about catholic priests and choir boys and you'll know what i'm referring to.

 

[ms_manic_minxx]

You know, masturbation is an awesome way to stop a drug-induced panic attack. 8)

Doesn't sex promote right-brain activity? If the right brain manages the immune system more efficiently, it makes sense to remain in ecstatic states for as long as possible... however one achieves them. I personally feel the best mixing lovemaking and psychedelics...

I think the whole point is to work with sexual energy consciously. I have had some amazing solo experiences (...with cannabis) where I have seen into my body, aligned different magnetic points of light between my spine/pelvis/etc., and then fired bright white light through my crown. Even self-given orgasms feel psychologically balancing, they intuitively feel like a good thing.

Some methods of withholding still require stimulation. I highly recommend reading Mantak Chia!

People who, on the other hand stay sexually abstinent because they think sex is bad are not in control at all.

^Yes. :shock:

Part of the reason i feel bad afterwards is because its sad it happened alone.

This is why I could never bring myself to buy any toys. It was like defeat. I wanted a real, living, breathing being, not some BPA-rich plastic, battery-powered thing with vibrations that could potentially interfere with the esoteric properties of my womb.

 

[Metanoia]

People told me about the "nocturnal emissions" as a kid, and well...i waited, and waited...i ....never happened! Propably won't ever happen....guess i'm lucky.

Same here!! Everyone I've told this to either thinks I'm lying or just plain weird.

 

[polytrip]

People told me about the "nocturnal emissions" as a kid, and well...i waited, and waited...i ....never happened! Propably won't ever happen....guess i'm lucky.

Same here!! Everyone I've told this to either thinks I'm lying or just plain weird.

Maybe they happen without you noticing it.
I like the words 'nocturnal emsissions' btw. It sounds like the title of a creepy movie.

 

[Metanoia]

People told me about the "nocturnal emissions" as a kid, and well...i waited, and waited...i ....never happened! Propably won't ever happen....guess i'm lucky.

Same here!! Everyone I've told this to either thinks I'm lying or just plain weird.

Maybe they happen without you noticing it.

I think it would be hard not to notice something like a big load of semen in my underwear. Or dried on crusty semen, for that matter :lol:

 

[obliguhl]

21 days or 3 weeks now. I now start to notice how many different layers are to this feeling.

 

[wikiwahwah]

To those who can do long periods without firing their gun, how do you tame nocturnal emissions? Cause I try to ejaculate at least half time daily especially when I'm having sex but still quite often I wake up with my underwear feeling uncomfortably moist.

Also, has anyone noticed that if you do not unload for, say a week and then after you've finished the juicing the semen smells A LOT like Acacia flowers?

The longest I've gone without masturbating is one month. I wasn't abstaining for any other reason than to see how long I could go for. After one month I decided I could probably go on indefinitely, but didn't see the point. I didn't experience any nocturnal emissions (I never have), but I did find that it disturbed my sleep somewhat. I would wake up a number of times each night with the need to masturbate. Although I had no problems going back to sleep, it was a bit annoying.

 

[Rooftop]

2 times 5 months here.
A couple nocturnal emissions the first months, then none. I did this as an experiment at a time when i decided i should try to break all unnecessary habits I had (drinking, smoking, masturbating). Very self empowering and interesting times. A bit tempting the first couple weeks, but nothing a bit of breathing and relaxing can't ride you through. And by refusing the reward of masturbation, i was often blessed with a more subtle reward of well-being or "high thinking".

Interestingly enough, this allowed me to interact with women more sincerely, with much less "parasitical" lusty thoughts, and i think this somewhat paradoxically increased my "sex-appeal", since three months in and both times i did this, i was approached by two jaw droppingly beautiful girls.
I gave in both times, which marked the ends of my abstinence periods, and looking back at it, i sometimes wonder if this was but a test i failed, and had i refused, something even more wonderful might have happened in my life...

 

[migmag]

You guys should give this book a serious ride

Science Discovers the Physiological Value of Continence

http://www.amazon.com/Science-Discovers-Physiological-Value-Continence/dp/1852288906

The book is old, 1957, and never republished,

Whole book can be read at this site

http://www.atmajyoti.org/br_value_of_continence_1.asp

Ive been also off-working lol for over a year now, its not hard at all once you are "at ease with it",
I can relate to the post above and the changes mentioned, changes are sorta deep and from the root.

 

[closet-chemist1010]

I do actaully feel very healthy and alive after having sex and reaching orgasm though..it feels incredibly rejuvinating. I dont feel the way that many others here do, describing feeling worn out and withdrawn etc.

I have to agree with fractal on this one, in many ways.
sex mid-day or morning is great, you can enjoy the rest of your day in the company of somebody you(hopefully) love.
The feeling of life, purity, rejuvenation, sharing the experience with somebody can last a long while, whether it happens again the next day, week, month? whatever.

as for sex and spice, my girlfriend isn't a huge fan of dmt, its to unpredictable for her liking. she is happy to keep me company while I venture. but MY adventures and OUR sex life stay separate.

On and off topic, smoking a non-breakthrough dose, sometimes I do obtain a random erection, does this happen to anybody else?
Im often curious about this

 

[obliguhl]

I was talking about the feeling after masturbating. Perhaps it is different after sex?
Now, after 26 days, i have hit a point were it gets increasingly difficult because i believe it is now very possible to accidentally have orgasms without touching anything :shock:

So i have to be very very careful.

 

[rOm]

Maybe you won't have sexual emissions.
But I assure it happens.
It's funny because subconscious can create dreams that makes you come without any mechanical action.

 

[prottel]

Now, after 26 days, i have hit a point were it gets increasingly difficult because i believe it is now very possible to accidentally have orgasms without touching anything

I know what you mean, I get more and more sensitive the longer I wait, at least up until 14-21 days, which is the longest for me. It is very easy to get an orgasm after this long. It also gets harder for me not to masturbate, as I get more and more sexual thoughts, or they feel more exciting compared to when you masturbate daily/several times a week.

 

[neverwas]

I've been thinking about this a while. Today marks one week for me. I've been working to understand my own sexuality for the past couple months and While I've learned a lot, I suppose I'm not getting all that I want out of it.

Being a regular ejaculator (LOL) of at least every day has taken its toll I think. These last few months its been far fewer than daily. I think what's important is learning when to become aroused. For me its been a chore, I've always looked at it as doing it to get it over with, to shut up the energy in my loins. Knowing when to say no, to not succomb to an energy that directs you more than you direct yourself has been rewarding. It really is a self control thing.

It hasn't gotten difficult yet but I can feel that energy building. Even taking a piss is getting risky lol. Distraction is very helpful in avoiding sexual thoughts or acts. Anyone have any tips on managing the energy when it becomes stronger? I'd really like to make it at least a month, if not several.

 

[Apoc]

I've been thinking about this a while. Today marks one week for me. I've been working to understand my own sexuality for the past couple months and While I've learned a lot, I suppose I'm not getting all that I want out of it.

Being a regular ejaculator (LOL) of at least every day has taken its toll I think. These last few months its been far fewer than daily. I think what's important is learning when to become aroused. For me its been a chore, I've always looked at it as doing it to get it over with, to shut up the energy in my loins. Knowing when to say no, to not succomb to an energy that directs you more than you direct yourself has been rewarding. It really is a self control thing.

Distraction is very helpful in avoiding sexual thoughts or acts. Anyone have any tips on managing the energy when it becomes stronger? I'd really like to make it at least a month, if not several.

I find peoples reasons for doing abstinence interesting. I went through a bout of it in July. I really enjoyed it for the first couple weeks. Then it became painful. But the reason I did abstinence was just because I wanted to feel more desire. I did it not to abstain from sex, or sexual thought, I did it to build up the fire. And really, I don't see what else abstinence might do for a person. Unless you abstain for so long that your sexual system starts to degrade. Do people go through abstinence in the hope that they won't become aroused anymore?

In the end, the fire becomes so hot that it didn't even feel like sexual desire anymore. It feels like pain, anger, frustration, obsession, even rage and madness. Then I felt shamed to have such feelings, and helpless. That's fine though, I just learned about myself from these feelings. I felt so relieved once I finally stopped the abstinence because it felt like I didn't have to think about sex anymore for a while. Thank God! I couldn't take anymore. I was sexed out. So, ironically, abstaining from abstinence turned out to be the best abstinence there was.

It hasn't gotten difficult yet but I can feel that energy building. Even taking a piss is getting risky lol.

lol indeed.

 

[tele]

To above:

I noticed that sometimes the sexual desires increase after some time(a week or two of abstinence), but sometimes they decrease and it feels really good. It depends often on how much sexual material you see during that time, such as on media.
I feel like sexual abstinence is a good thing, but like sexual activities, it should be too practiced in moderation.

 

[neverwas]

My real reason is that I have sexual issues that need sorting out. Being at the mercy of what I know to be a destructive pattern is the reason I chose this. I've been doing some changa work lately and I think abstinence will help to put me in control of something that wants to control me. You dig?

I'm definitely aware of an energy buzzing down there. Sexual reference, beautiful women, description, random porn showing up online etc. All are a test of will. Learning to avoid these things completely is new to me. I suppose I'm trying to see myself as a person that is completely unconcerned with sex, instead of a person overwhelmed and obsessed by it. Sort of seems like overcoming that will be the reset button I need. Of course, once this is over, I'm sure I will have a much higher respect for my own sexuality.

To be honest, I'm okay with this, its a big deal to me and I am living with this now, instead of for the end of this journey.

Seriously though, how do I distract when it gets harder? This second week I know will be tricky.

 

[neverwas]

Haha I don't either. Fortunately, you don't have to if you don't want to.

 

[obliguhl]

In the end, the fire becomes so hot that it didn't even feel like sexual desire anymore. It feels like pain, anger, frustration, obsession, even rage and madness. Then I felt shamed to have such feelings, and helpless.

But that drastically changes over time, as you grow accustomed to abstaining! I can now do 1 week+ without any real problems. It does not make me angry, it gives me more appreciation for people and...interestingly enough - decreases lust for porn and increases lust for real encounters. It is really strange.
Great to see more people experiencing with it. I think it can be a real mind bender to do this exercice several times per year. It really helps to develop a better kind of sexuality i feel.