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World University Rankings 2010-2011
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Harvard is not number one on this ranking:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352.html
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704358904575477643369663352.html
It depends on what criteria you use.
Why is this relevant to the forum tho?
Why is this relevant to the forum tho?
The 'fun' part with those lists is that they all use different criteria.
It's the same as other lists like:
* Top 10 airplanes (all planes have the same purpose??)
* Top 10 washing machines
* Top 10 coolest morons
* etc.
You have those tv-series with top 10 lists and you always wonder what the criteria are and why. It gets even more fun when different tv-series have the same lists, they seem to always agree but never at the same moment.
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It's the same as other lists like:
* Top 10 airplanes (all planes have the same purpose??)
* Top 10 washing machines
* Top 10 coolest morons
* etc.
You have those tv-series with top 10 lists and you always wonder what the criteria are and why. It gets even more fun when different tv-series have the same lists, they seem to always agree but never at the same moment.
Kind regards,
The Traveler
p.s. Thats why we have a 'Hyperspace Tavern' jungleheart: so we have a place where we don't have to talk about entheogens all the time.
If you ask me, it is totally outraging that the Hitachi Magic Wand and the Thumbelina Slim Rabbit only made it to number 6 and 10 respectively. What's wrong with these people?
they explain their criteria here:
www.timeshighereducation.co.uk
A lot of weight is in citations and publications, which is understandable to some extent with higher education, but it also reinforces the "publish or perish" kind of attitude in academia, which isnt necessarily a sign of good education. Also it relies way too much on very specific details such as numbers (of publications, of people from this or that place, of phds, whatever) and very little if any qualitative aspects (degree of satisfaction of students/teachers, for example), or considering innovative creative projects, investment in entrepreneur spirit of students, or other important aspects such as level of sustainability of the campus/university, etc.
My current university is somewhere in the middle of the list, which I guess should be good in their terms.. I dont really care though, as I said I think a university might be good or not depending on a lot of other factors that werent taken in account
World University Rankings 2010-11 methodology
A lot of weight is in citations and publications, which is understandable to some extent with higher education, but it also reinforces the "publish or perish" kind of attitude in academia, which isnt necessarily a sign of good education. Also it relies way too much on very specific details such as numbers (of publications, of people from this or that place, of phds, whatever) and very little if any qualitative aspects (degree of satisfaction of students/teachers, for example), or considering innovative creative projects, investment in entrepreneur spirit of students, or other important aspects such as level of sustainability of the campus/university, etc.
My current university is somewhere in the middle of the list, which I guess should be good in their terms.. I dont really care though, as I said I think a university might be good or not depending on a lot of other factors that werent taken in account
clouds said:
Of course not. Just didn't know it was standard procedure to discuss anything and everything here.
I just like that there was one ranking where Harvard was not important, and State schools were higher, because Ivy League is such the holy grail here.
Oh my god, we europeans realy ought to be deeply ashamed. This clearly shows that we europeans don't deserve the luxury we live in. This clearly shows that our days as a continent of prosperity and abundance are numbered: if the amount of asian universities on the list increases we simply will be pushed out of this list.clouds said:
This is just the so many'th example of how we realy don't care about the future of ourselves and our childeren at all.
It's not that there's nothing at stake here: Currently the EU is the largest economy in the world, and one of the largest concentrations of people on the planet after china and india with over 500 million people. How do europeans think they can maintain their position as economic hub and how do they think over half a billion mouths can be fed, without any serious investments in higher education?
Europeans always have a big mouth about america, but we are far more pathetic: we don't even care about our own future and that of our childeren.
It's these sort of things that clearly show, and everybody who disagrees must either be totally blind or in a phase of denial, that our continental civilisation will not even make it till the end of this century.
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