Wow…just wow Changa is incredible

[RiderOnTheStorm25]

I had been lurking on here for many many years and had a gram of DMT that I had been saving. I finally felt pushed to make Changa, and have no experience with freebase so I went into the entire experience kind of blind.

I loaded a chillum up and went outside and took a deep hit. I’ll be real, there was an immediate change in perception. Was it overwhelming? No I wouldn’t say so but it was definitely still jarring, like I had to sit down as I was like “oh fuck” after that the effects were very minimal, I was staring at the garage floor as it’s patterned and definitely noticed it was undulating. Much like how it would on other classical psychs.

I decided to wait a little longer and then loaded the chillum up again but this time took a very deep hit and held it in, this is where it got very interesting. I had to run inside and we have family photos in our home and when I looked at the photos everyone’s faces turned, for lack of a better term, into the same texture as porygon the Pokémon, so think like muted but an overlay of sheen so the faces were not there but almost like someone did cel shading to the portraits. At this point I was overwhelmed and started pacing but then sat down and shut my eyes…holy fucking shit…

I didn’t break through, but I realized I don’t even know if I need to…I don’t know what i saw as it was vivid but at the same time very hard to make out. It was patterns but then also they were swirling and changing colors. The strange thing was on subsequent hits it seemed like it was always the same type of patterning which in my head I figured it would vary?

It was deeply therapeutic once the initial shock wore off. I sat in my car and sobbed and thought about a lot of things my family, why I hid the true me from people, etc..I felt an immense feeling of release and also love for those around me.

I forget who it was but someone on here echoed the sentiment that breaking through is it always necessary or needed and I can kind of see that being the case. So I want to explore further, absolutely, but I’m ok with taking it slow.

I’m still trying to figure out and piece together what I was seeing with my eyes closed. I ended up taking more hits and this whole session lasted about three hours.

I don’t even know if I want to explore just vaping freebase as I like this fact that with changa it can ease you into the experience.

I’m kind of at a loss for words and I feel like my explanation didn’t do the experience justice, but I do finally realize why so many members of the nexus find this molecule to be special.

I want to thank all the members on this site who helped with any questions I had. I will definitely be exploring this stuff more but still maintaining a healthy amount of respect.

I do have a question as well:

When smoking changa how long does one hold in the smoke? Admittedly I held in fairly large hits for at most 3 seconds and it was getting overwhelming although that might be the wrong word to use, if I hold it in longer will that boost the effects?

 

[Voidmatrix]

Yep. Hold it longer. I count to 19. I love you had such a wonderful experience my friend. Welcome to the club.

One love

 

[RiderOnTheStorm25]

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Yep. Hold it longer. I count to 19. I love you had such a wonderful experience my friend. Welcome to the club.

One love

Got it! Thanks

It’s tough man, it was very mild but very profound at the same time. An extreme outpouring of love for myself and those around me along to an MDMA experience. At the same time I woke up this morning with a headache and went back to being a generally distrustful person.

It’s almost like it’s so fleeting, like I’m back to my bullshit again if that makes sense…maybe it’s just an integration thing or maybe the experience is just that, fleeting. I’m confused on so many levels. Not sure if you can share any of your own insights?

 

[Voidmatrix]

Some of it is skill and experience. The more you journey, if being mindful, the better you'll get at holding on to some gems. Some of that skill entails proper integration for yourself. It also highlights that the real work is on us, not rhe medicines. They give us what we need in certain ways, but it's on us to learn how to adapt the benefits into our daily lives.

Journal often, meditate regularly, eat well, move your body, chop wood/carry water.

One love

 

[acacian]

Glad you had such a moving experience, @RiderOnTheStorm25 .. it really is a profound little piece of technology, DMT. And yeah 19 seconds as @Voidmatrix said is good amount of time.. ideally you should be feeling the effects very strongly as you blow it out... in fact at high enough doses you might not even know your blowing the vapor out.

I'm really happy to hear that your experience connected you to your love for yourself and those around you.. that's very beautiful. That's probably my favourite thing about DMT, is the love that it makes you feel for existence. Its easy in everyday life to get caught up on the struggle.. but DMT really reminds you that our journey is of a sacred nature, and pain and joy are pivotal parts of that. I don't believe breakthrough is essential with DMT, although the experience of sheer surrender to it's power I think can really be beneficial.. particularly early on while forming your relationship with DMT. These days I actually find I breakthrough on a lower dose.. or at least the healing/message is understood at lower doses. I don't find I need to be completely out of body to receive what I need to.

What plant did you extract your spice from? Have you had a chance to try freebase by itself? It is perhaps a little more clearheaded and crystalline than changa IME.. but they both have their place. Changa is wonderful for meditation.

 

[RiderOnTheStorm25]

Glad you had such a moving experience, @RiderOnTheStorm25 .. it really is a profound little piece of technology, DMT. And yeah 19 seconds as @Voidmatrix said is good amount of time.. ideally you should be feeling the effects very strongly as you blow it out... in fact at high enough doses you might not even know your blowing the vapor out.

I'm really happy to hear that your experience connected you to your love for yourself and those around you.. that's very beautiful. That's probably my favourite thing about DMT, is the love that it makes you feel for existence. Its easy in everyday life to get caught up on the struggle.. but DMT really reminds you that our journey is of a sacred nature, and pain and joy are pivotal parts of that. I don't believe breakthrough is essential with DMT, although the experience of sheer surrender to it's power I think can really be beneficial.. particularly early on while forming your relationship with DMT. These days I actually find I breakthrough on a lower dose.. or at least the healing/message is understood at lower doses. I don't find I need to be completely out of body to receive what I need to.

What plant did you extract your spice from? Have you had a chance to try freebase by itself? It is perhaps a little more clearheaded and crystalline than changa IME.. but they both have their place. Changa is wonderful for meditation.

I’m honestly still very intimidated to break through just because yesterday was very overwhelming at sub breakthrough especially when open eyes everything started to get pixelated. I do get what you are saying about sometimes just surrendering to it and allowing it to wash over you.

So is it totally possible I had a breakthrough dose in the pipe I just didn’t hold it in long enough? To be fair the blend I made was very strong 1:1.

I’m still in awe today and to be honest a part of me didn’t want to experience it again just out of sheer respect it was such a surreal yet profound experience at sun breakthrough. That being said I’m excited and want to see what else the chemical has to offer me.

I actually had a gram lying around for when the time was right, I didn't extract it myself. I have never done freebase this was my first ever experience with the molecule. Freebase seems very daunting just becuse I rocks you immediately whereas I like with changa i could slowly ramp it up.

I still have so many questions,

 

[acacian]

Definitely possible, but impossible to say now. 1:1 is very strong.. not much needed for a powerful 40-50mg DMT experience. But weighing changa is more complicated so it feels a little bit more luck of the draw. That is an advantage of using just freebase. You know what your getting.

Also, a friendly reminder - talk of buying or selling DMT isn't allowed here.

 

[Panpsychic]

So is it totally possible I had a breakthrough dose in the pipe I just didn’t hold it in long enough? To be fair the blend I made was very strong 1:1.

I’m still in awe today and to be honest a part of me didn’t want to experience it again just out of sheer respect it was such a surreal yet profound experience at sun breakthrough. That being said I’m excited and want to see what else the chemical has to offer me.

The blends I smoke are 50:50 also.
You might also consider drinking harmalas then waiting an hour and smoking Changa to further boost it and extend the experience.

While some do prefer smoking straight freebase, the general consensus is that Changa, or oral harmalas then smoking DMT (vaporhuasca) is more useful; the experience is of longer duration, you have more time to make sense of it and its a bit more of a gradual comeup though still can be overwhelming.
You also find you need way less material when combined as it potentiates the DMT.
I don't think the term 'breakthrough' is as as applicable to Changa as you can navigate the deeper terrain more coherently which is invaluable and you aren't trying to have some kind of out of body experience necessarily.

The sense of awe and respect you have is the right attitude. It is sacred and holy, not to be taken lightly and as others have mentioned, try your best to put the lessons learned into practice.

The best thing about it is if you can embody the lessons learned and integrate them into your life, the experience deepens the more you do it and there is an underlying structure that emerges that is what I have found.

 

[RiderOnTheStorm25]

The blends I smoke are 50:50 also.
You might also consider drinking harmalas then waiting an hour and smoking Changa to further boost it and extend the experience.

While some do prefer smoking straight freebase, the general consensus is that Changa, or oral harmalas then smoking DMT (vaporhuasca) is more useful; the experience is of longer duration, you have more time to make sense of it and its a bit more of a gradual comeup though still can be overwhelming.
You also find you need way less material when combined as it potentiates the DMT.
I don't think the term 'breakthrough' is as as applicable to Changa as you can navigate the deeper terrain more coherently which is invaluable and you aren't trying to have some kind of out of body experience necessarily.

The sense of awe and respect you have is the right attitude. It is sacred and holy, not to be taken lightly and as others have mentioned, try your best to put the lessons learned into practice.

The best thing about it is if you can embody the lessons learned and integrate them into your life, the experience deepens the more you do it and there is an underlying structure that emerges that is what I have found.

I appreciate your response! Definitely will always respect all of these molecules. I hope to continue my journeys as the years go by.

Do you mind elaboirating on that last sentence? Please.

 

[Panpsychic]

You are engaging in a reciprocal relationship with the higher dimensional consciousness of that which is accessed when you partake of the sacrament.
This is where you get insights into your life, how you can be a better person, and even increased synchronicities that can occur in everyday life outside of tripping showing you a best path to take.

Its up to you if you want to and can make the changes to yourself, it takes work and effort. If you fall back its ok, but try hard to get back on track. If you do so, subsequent experiences will tend to deepen as the higher consciousness accessed has a more aligned and improved system to work with (you) in order to express itself.

In this way a structure for self improvement unfolds and a structure for comprehending actual reality also, depending on the direction you take it.

 

[MagyarHungary1111]

,im happy for you ALL ,just love the way of this ONENESS become

 

[TheWatchers]

Super cool you had that experience. This stuff is pure magic. I have done it many times and it continues to amaze me in every way. We are lucky to have been given this gift