I have been reading everything I can now about bufo..and I found that in otts notes he explicitly states that with pure bufo he had no facial flushing...at one point I looked in the mirror and my face was flushed and my eyes were bulging, with huge pupils, but it was not unpleasant at all.. it really tripped me out becasue my skin was sort of melting as well!

So I dunno what is causing the flushing, but it did not bother me..really i can't believe it, all I did was follow the traditional prep..no extraction..I thought there would be at least some nausea..glad there wasn't though:d

Now I know that it is traditionally used with aya by some tribes..I think they chew pieces of vine before they take the seeds..so I am interested in that now as well..has you're SWIM tried drinking a vine only brew before vaporizing the bufo ron??

I really love this stuff..I want to blast off with spice at the peak of a bufo trip as well and see how that goes..