i bet smoking them with the caapi is what really did the trick too...

a concentrated caapi leaf smoked with the based and toasted seeds would be awesome... a friend down in Oz has told SWIM about adding leaves from the cebil tree to his caapi leaf and it is pretty amazing too...

cant seem to find a source for cebil leaves though. another freind who has growin it in new mexico says even the sap is active...