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[Perplexo]

Hi all,
I'm astonished by my first experience of DMT (in the form of changa). I was with a close group of friends and my brother, one of my friends was experienced but the rest of us had never tried this before. We had all taken some MDMA an hour or two earlier (it is only since that I have found out this is not a good idea, obvious really! I don't know how this affected my trip). I laid on a bed took the first breath from the lung, held it as long as I could, exhaled. I leaned forward to clear the lung and imediately all hell broke loose. I can vaguely remember inhaling again and laying back. Blue blocks, with a red angular spiral within each one repeated infinately, then folded and twisted in....well you'd have to see it. Then out of nowhere....YELLOW, that took me by surprise, I heard my brothers voice say relax, afterwards he said I was writhing around making noises so he thought it might be a good idea to say something like that. His voice did the trick, and I did relax. Blocks everywhere, grids....noises, like wind or sweeping, and big bassy rumbling. I don't remember everything, I remember the very intense onset very well, I know everything was very aztec-y, blocky, pixels and.....downwards? I felt a presence of something, I'm not sure what but something, I don't think I ever saw it. I was very calm, I knew my brother was next to me, sometimes I could hear him saying relax....this was extremely comforting, but the sound did interupt the flow a little. When I started to come round a little I opened my eyes and this changed everything, I was still tripping madly but when I had my eyes closed I wasn't even on this plane of existence. It was very positive, I was left completely awestruck, I found this experience very intense, possibly the most drastic event of my life. Since then I have had trouble processing what I have seen and felt....I think alot more thinking is needed. I know that this was all created by my brain, but the feeling that I was somewhere else and met....something while I was there persists a little, I don't know if I'm comfortable with that at the moment but I still feel I need to recover mentally first before I make any conclusions. For me, at this stage, I am glad that I have tried this, but whether or not I ever do again......well I'll leave it a while and think a bit more.

Will

 

[thEorEtical]

Nice report. I agree with you on the fact that you should stay away from it for a little while until you feel ready again and have pondered your first experience. Good write-up though.

I will add one thing, as was told to me once before, try adding some paragraphs to your reports, makes it much more readable and aesthetically pleasing.(just some pay-it-forward constructive criticism).

Good luck and be safe on your future travels

Peace and Love.
thEorEtical.

 

[anrchy]

Awesome. Do you have any idea about what your dose was? Why exactly are you saying that taking MDMA before dmt is a bad idea? I have no intentions of doing so just wonder. Have you done any research of your own on DMT? What other hallucinogens are you familiar with?

Welcome to the nexus!

 

[3rdI]

I know that this was all created by my brain

are you sure:twisted:

good report and welcome to the Nexus

 

[Perplexo]

Thanks for all the feedback, it is certainly a monstrous paragraph!

Now to answer some of those questions.

I have no idea what the dose was, my friend Ben who has done this plenty of times before said it was 'one big dose'. My brother and another of my friends went before me, my brother went catatonic, and spent his trip in another universe, he describes it as being similar to my trip. My other friend stayed more conscious and was more coherent through his trip. I think I definately went in 'deepest', I do have good lung capacity and cleared the lung in less breaths and more thoroughly than the others, it could also have been a slightly higher dose as it was only measured by eye.

Since this trip I have read on various websites that mixing certain chemicals with the MAO inhibitors found in changa can be dangerous, MDMA is specifically mentioned as being one of the most dangerous on some of these sites. I'm not sure why exactly, but now I have experienced this, I will certainly be taking it more seriously the next time I try this....if I decide to.

I have been a drug user for 15 years or so, and in that time I have periodically researched all kinds of substances. I didn't specifically research DMT or changa before this trip, but I spoke to my experienced friend about what to expect. I have since researched a little more thoroughly. I would make a few changes if I was to try this again though, one being absolute silence. I was very sensitive to noise during my trip and it brought be back to reality when someone was talking, although I did need to be told to relax a few times.

I've always been a big smoker, it's my thing really. I try not to use other drugs regularly, in the past I have used 2CI, Ketamine, Mushrooms, Acid. Nothing compare or even come close to my experience of DMT. Tripping had always been.....see through and vague, sometimes intense but generally unclear. My DMT trip was unbelievably clear and detailed, the images I saw were so real and overwhelming, everything that was actually real was no longer there to me. With acid or mushrooms I had always tripped 'ontop' of what I could see was really there, but the DMT pushed all that away and just took over completely. Also I did not experience the same confusion and forgetfulness that Ketamine, Mushrooms and Acid can cause.

Will

 

[Perplexo]

To answer 3rdI,
No......I really really am not sure!!!! haha.

 

[3rdI]

:lol: me neither

 

[Perplexo]

Hi all,
I now feel normal again, so this is an update.

This was a powerful experience for me, I think that one of the reasons I enjoyed it so much and was able to stay relatively calm is because I am not very well grounded in reality. I spend alot of time in my own head thinking rather than noticing the things around me. Therefore, going into this different universe was not as shocking as it otherwise might have been.

I've never liked the idea that I ingest substances to make me feel a certain way or to have fun. I believe that this trip has made other types of drugs seem more pointless to me than before, after experiencing that trip it seems pointless to take anything else, nothing comes close to DMT. Although, I have said this numerous times in the past and always seem to forget again....I'm hopeful this time.

I want to visit that place again, I feel I can learn something about life, everything and myself, and in a way this scares me. I am not a religious or spiritual person, yet I can't describe my experience in any way other than deeply spiritual. Partly for this reason, and the fact I over think/analyse things, I feel if I got too deep into this I could lose my mind. I have a fairly fragile psyche as it is. Again I may forget this in a few months but I have no intention of trying DMT again....as much as it pains me to say that.

At the moment, I'm concentrating on reality more, I'm avoiding computer games. I'm spending time with my friends and poi practice in the park is now how I spend most of my time, I'm going to try to keep this going.

Will