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[sidefx]

hey im at a point were i am keen to step into a more prolonged DMT session.

i am very experienced with psychedelics.

i have tried syrian rue tea once.
i felt effects off 5 grams.


i would rather aim for a break through sort dose !
than sit on the edge of a cliff.

50mg smoked has always blasted me out of this world far past any reaches of reality.

but i am not sure on Drinking ????

i have like 15g or Rue seed + about 4 grams of caapi vine a very young specimen.

and 150mg of freebase very pure .

i was thinking of a dose of 50 - 100mg DMT

and the caapi vine and maybe 5 - 10 grams of rue seed ?




i have done plenty of reading, but answers to this 'Age old Query' are many apart



WHAT ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS

EVEN BETTER YOUR FIRST TIME EXPERIENCE PROS - CONS , WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY ?

PLRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr YA LATER

 

[Global]

WHAT ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS

EVEN BETTER YOUR FIRST TIME EXPERIENCE PROS - CONS , WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY ?

PLRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr YA LATER

Amazing First Time Pharma

Suggestions: blankets, comfy place to nest up, bucket to puke in, music to listen to. It can be very sedating and immobilizing. Don't fight it, just go with it. You won't need legs where we're going! 8)

 

[Parshvik Chintan]

Suggestions: blankets, comfy place to nest up, bucket to puke in, music to listen to. It can be very sedating and immobilizing. Don't fight it, just go with it. You won't need legs where we're going! 8)

with the addition of a nice fruit platter nearby to snack on, i would say this just about covers it.

happy travels :thumb_up:

 

[Michal_R]

...i was thinking of... maybe 5 - 10 grams of rue seed...

You say you are an experienced traveller. I absolutely don´t doubt that, but I think that 5-10g of Rue could be way too much for most of the people. By experience I know that 2,5g of Rue gets me fully inhibited (I weigh a little over 160 pounds). With 3,5g and up the physical effects are getting a little unpleasant for me.

With regard to the DMT dose... 70mg of The Crystal is "a higher" dose for me that fully disconnects me from consensual reality (I am glad I started lower on my first few attempts). Oral DMT dosing seems to be highly variable and very difficult to predict what will work for whom.

Some people suggest to smoke around 10mg or 12mg if one thinks s/he dosed low on Pharma. If anyone wants to do that, I definitely recommend not smoking more than that :shock:

 

[universecannon]

just curious how do you go about brewing the rue?

because 5grams is too much for most people...much less 10grams 0.0

But there are some anomalies out there who need way higher doses than most, so it seems like you may be one

 

[Global]

Some people suggest to smoke around 10mg or 12mg if one thinks s/he dosed low on Pharma. If anyone wants to do that, I definitely recommend not smoking more than that :shock:

I personally never take oral DMT without smoking DMT, but yes, one should need no more than 10-12mg to go where few men have gone before.

 

[anonenium]

WHAT ARE SOME SUGGESTIONS

EVEN BETTER YOUR FIRST TIME EXPERIENCE PROS - CONS , WHAT YOU WOULD HAVE DONE DIFFERENTLY ?

PLRrrrrrrrrrrrrrr YA LATER

Amazing First Time Pharma

Suggestions: blankets, comfy place to nest up, bucket to puke in, music to listen to. It can be very sedating and immobilizing. Don't fight it, just go with it. You won't need legs where we're going! 8)

says who about the legs its easy to pace holes into the floor without realizing it.

set up a corner of the room with pillows so you can crawl up into it if need be.

have water nearby and lots of it.

have a plate of food sitting around already prepared before you go, lots of little things, that way if you want to you can nibble or when you done you have something waiting.

and if you think your going to upchuck then smile, dont know why but it will give you a few more seconds to get to the bathroom if you do

 

[Clovers]

My first several rounds of oral DMT were 200mg+. I am now trying to play with dose to see how low I can go and what size dose does what to/for me. I have found that anything under 60mg is about a waste, it seems to put me in a great mood but that is about it. Working my way up it seems like I need 200mg, however less can be ok. If you are wanting to get the most out of it take all 150 and get comfy, you have about 45 minutes. Based on my experience with myself and three others you will want to make sure you don't drink too much fluid for a few hours before and make sure you have plenty of water or something to drink near by. Every time I do an oral dose I end up getting out of it to go to the bathroom once or twice and it sure seems like I could fill a 2L bottle. I had a friend not get up, ended up soaking my couch and then some. Also out of experimentation nobody has thrown up when doing an oral dose right after eating or eating right after taking the dose but we always throw up when its done on an empty or nearly empty stomach. If you do have to throw up don't fight it, you will never win and it (so far in my experience) is always short, and once its over you feel much better. And of course its much nicer to have someone you trust around you when you do this, especially your first few times or until you feel comfortable. My ex was so lovely to have, would clean my beard and bucket after I threw up, helped me drink, and move around if I felt the need to. Most importantly she was a great assistant in writing down notes for me like keeping track of the time for when and how long stuff happens so I could better understand what to expect.