1 dose 2 experiences, do you get this?

[anrchy]

So this has happened atleast 3 times that I can recall. I'm really interested in hearing others experiences and theories to expand my understanding of what is going on. So ill go ahead and explain.

I dosed last night with my new GVG. 3 scoops, approx 12-15mg, low grade breakthrough.

As I came back to full awareness of my surroundings I continued to lay there and hold on to the sensations that were rolling over my body. I started having barely visible visuals of an entity that was moving around quite fast checking me out. Body load is fairly strong at this point but this experience feels much different than what I just went through.

This entity reminded me of the ghosts from PACMAN. Except with tentacle like things that are made of three "things" intertwined, almost braided, together. Each tentacle was rotating and each part of the three things that made up each tentacle pulsed and twisted seperate from eachother.

As he checked me out and flew all around my head I noticed he was effecting the physical sensations I was feeling. I felt the body high pulsing along with him and he was effecting it in other ways as well. I felt a soft "paw" rest on my left temple area near my eye brow. It felt like my cats paw but upon opening my eyes to check it wasn't.

This entity modified the way my eyes operated and could distort the feeling in my face. I smiled which brought a lightish blue light in a small area, and he "distorted" my face or atleast the way in high it felt.

Anyways, this went on for some time and I had the eerie feeling that he was atleast partially in "this" reality, possibly at all times.

Each time I've had this seperate experience it's always been different. But definitely seperate from the actual DMT experience itself. And always right after returning to my body. I just lay there and let it happen.

Anyone else experience this? Or this entity?

 

[Global]

There have been times where I've had somewhat low-level breakthroughs or even sub-breakthroughs and just like when it seems that everything is winding down, and it's all gonna be downhill from here, suddenly the experience can start to vamp up again out of no where. Most commonly for me it is the emergence of the godhead at the end of the experience that initiates the extended sequence. I've seen things in hyperspace with tentacles like what you speak of, but not from this part in the experience.

 

[anrchy]

Interesting. I have stretched out experiences before with success but when this specific one in my post happened its a whole different sensation, visual style, and body load. Also it happened during the time i usually open my eyes knowing its over and time to reflect while the high wears off.

Another interesting thing was the multitude of emotions and physical sensations this entity "applied" to me. For the most part I felt uncomfortable. There was a slight negative aura emanating from it. I felt so many emotions passing through me that I couldn't really focus on each one to analyze them very well.

The physical sensations however I recall well. Warmth and cold constantly changing coming and going. And the body high had a repetitive pulse to it and a fluttering effect. He did things to my face mostly though that were seperate from the rest of my body. The feeling that my face was being slightly distorted was strange and interesting. I would make different facial expressions and he was able to change them slightly.

It felt as though there was only him but I saw other ones but I think they weren't seperate entities. As the visuals and body load faded I could still sense him there.

 

[Global]

Consider as well that the very redirecting of your own attention to your face could have a direct effect on your energetic sensations and the entity's actions. I know that this can be the case often for myself personally.

 

[anrchy]

Actually I did think about that. After reading one of your posts about where you apply your attention and how the holograms went into your GVG because your attention had been on that I decided that I want to start experimenting with that idea.

I'm going to be starting my doses out open eye staring at the ceiling. What exactly do you focus your attention on? I also noticed the visuals change and colors change ect when I make certain facial expression during non breakthrough doses. This particular dose started out open eye and I feel that had something to do with the visuals not being as bright and clear as usual. Although I suspect it might be more to do with the fact I took a much lower dose.

I've only dosed 3 times using my GVG so far. Starting with one scoop then two then three for this one. I think I'm going to go with 5 scoops on my next visit beings that's more close to my usual weighed out doses.

 

[Global]

What I do is to stare at a flat surface opposite me so either a wall or the ceiling usually. It helps if there's not too much clutter between you and your "projection screen" because IME this stuff interacts with matter and thus can interfere. So when I concentrate on any one area for some time, patterns will naturally begin accumulating. The longer I focus on the pattern, the further it develops and the more complex it becomes until it ruptures from the 2D plane out into the space between the "screen" and myself as holograms. By continuing to maintain my focus on the multidimensional holograms, they continue to grow more complex and will begin making their way over to me. If I can maintain my steadfast gaze and attention, they will eventually collide with me and align themselves with me. The more accurate and precise this alignment is, the more beautiful the ensuing vision is (it is instantly obvious that going through this alignment process upon closing my eyes instantly creates precious hyper-colors that don't tend to come out too often), and it gives the experience a much stronger positive flavor as well as feeling as if there is more DMT energy that can be used in seemingly intelligent ways by entities and the hyperspatial landscape forces that be to create ever complex and beautiful structures. Even with eyes closed, the direction of attention on any particular object for an extended period of time will tend to facilitate action or visual sophistication of some sort.

In regards to the facial expressions, I have no doubt that changing facial expressions can have an effect on the sensations as I've had experience with moving other parts of my body and noticing very dramatic effects the energetic phenomena of the experience. I think it can be tied into the attention-based narrative as well because by changing your facial expressions, you are inherently shifting attention to your face in both execution and reflection, so a shift in the energies about this part would be expected.

 

[anrchy]

When I dosed using two scoops I laid on my back and focused my attention to the ceiling. It was a fairly low dose but I was slightly surprised as to what happened. First I noticed my vision blurred slightly as though my eyes were vibrating. It took some effort but I was able to overcome this and focus on a small section. The patterns of the texture became fluidic and moved like a thick liquid.

This last one came on pretty much the same way yet much more intense. It was almost impossible to make my eyes focus and everything was very blurry. I was finally able to do so but nothing else really happened so I closed my eyes and slowly separated from my body while seeing my classical digital eye candyland patterns and entity interaction.

I've yet to have much more than distortions of objects for oevs.

What size doses generally give you the entrance into hyperspace that your talking about with the holograms and such.

 

[Global]

I dose around 20mg. I seem to be particularly sensitive though. How many hits are you taking? How long are you holding them in for and what kind of lighter are you using?

 

[Global]

If you're having difficulties conjuring strong OEVs, try opening your eyes during the climax of a closed eye experience and focus on one area in the room, and observe what (if anything) happens.

 

[anrchy]

I dose around 20mg. I seem to be particularly sensitive though. How many hits are you taking? How long are you holding them in for and what kind of lighter are you using?

Well before I got the GVG I was using an acrylic bong with a "meth" bulb placed in the hole where the bong stem usually goes. I got particularly skilled using this method despite its obvious short comings in efficiency.

With this device I have been able to achieve breakthroughs on 15-20mg

I just recently recieved my GVG and I was wanting to experiment with dosing without weighing, as I have become pretty good at weighing out doses relatively accurately using my mg scoops. They hold approx between 4 and 7mg each scoop (rough estimate) when slightly above level. I am aware that the more scoops I use the more variation there will be but this isnt a problem for me.

With my GVG (and the bong) I only take 1 hit and hold it in as long as I can. Getting the full dose in 1 hit IME is the best method.

I use a butane torch, bernzomatic brand, which works very well. I'm considering trying the arc that everyone recommends but for now this thing works just fine. The bong is officially retired until I find a reason to resurrect it from the dead.