30mg Not Enough.. Aztec Fractals

[HyperJester]

I am new to DMT... the first time I tried it, I heard a Tibetan singing bowl sound, saw the room as a 3d hologram vibrating, it knocked me out on one toke, I fell unconscious like I had concussion, lost my breathing and saw a purple worm hole rotating.. then I felt sick and vomited and everything went away and I woke up instantly.

Next time a week later I tried 3 tokes on 30mg, only mild effects of buzzing in my head.
I tried 3 tokes on 40mg later the same night, I saw white light and geometric patterns for a short period of time..

A week later I tried 50mg and did 3 tokes, I felt a sensation of bliss and love, very connected pure emotion, saw an intense white light and intense geometric fractal patterns vibrating quickly, that reminded me of Aztec patterns somehow.. all though I can't really fully remember the details of what I saw, only the rough idea of it. It was quite complex and fast moving, it was hypnotising to look at, it lasted about 10 minutes, it reached a point where it vibrated harder and built up intensity like it was going to break, but then wore off... the patterns went away but I carried on seeing white light all around me for another 5 or 6 minutes and this blissful feeling.

My conclusion is 30mg seems to be the standard for most people to break through?
It's not working for me at all, I know I can do longer tokes, so I think I can break through at 50mg if I do my tokes long enough. Trouble is on that dose it takes away all the air in the room after the first pull, so you're really gone quite quickly. It's hard doing multiple tokes to get enough in the system.

I've never seen this orange chrysanthemum that people talk about, does anyone else see white light and Aztec like fractal patterns??

 

[interloperhp]

If you smoke 30mg, it is really difficult to get 30mg into your body. Dependent on how effective your smoking technique is, you will only get 20-25mg in total or even less.
Smoking MAOI before or take it orally or sublingual can help to go deeper. Watch your food or prescribed drugs before you take MAOI. Maybe you have to do special diet before.

Was you eyes open or closed at your 50mg experience?

 

[JKW]

I am new to DMT... the first time I tried it, I heard a Tibetan singing bowl sound, saw the room as a 3d hologram vibrating, it knocked me out on one toke, I fell unconscious like I had concussion, lost my breathing and saw a purple worm hole rotating.. then I felt sick and vomited and everything went away and I woke up instantly.

Next time a week later I tried 3 tokes on 30mg, only mild effects of buzzing in my head.
I tried 3 tokes on 40mg later the same night, I saw white light and geometric patterns for a short period of time..

A week later I tried 50mg and did 3 tokes, I felt a sensation of bliss and love, very connected pure emotion, saw an intense white light and intense geometric fractal patterns vibrating quickly, that reminded me of Aztec patterns somehow.. all though I can't really fully remember the details of what I saw, only the rough idea of it. It was quite complex and fast moving, it was hypnotising to look at, it lasted about 10 minutes, it reached a point where it vibrated harder and built up intensity like it was going to break, but then wore off... the patterns went away but I carried on seeing white light all around me for another 5 or 6 minutes and this blissful feeling.

My conclusion is 30mg seems to be the standard for most people to break through?
It's not working for me at all, I know I can do longer tokes, so I think I can break through at 50mg if I do my tokes long enough. Trouble is on that dose it takes away all the air in the room after the first pull, so you're really gone quite quickly. It's hard doing multiple tokes to get enough in the system.

I've never seen this orange chrysanthemum that people talk about, does anyone else see white light and Aztec like fractal patterns??

I think you might be burning the DMT. It really shouldn't take more than 30 mg to break through. How are you smoking it?

Regarding the Chrysanthemum, I've never seen it. I've never seen elves either. I have made contact with only one entity multiple times (she keeps coming back in different forms) and she shows me this visual language of transforming alien glyphs. My trips are nothing like what I've heard described, so much so that the first time I broke through I didn't realize I had broken through until the experience was repeated.

 

[Hotspur922]

"Regarding the Chrysanthemum, I've never seen it. I've never seen elves either. I have made contact with only one entity multiple times (she keeps coming back in different forms) and she shows me this visual language of transforming alien glyphs. My trips are nothing like what I've heard described, so much so that the first time I broke through I didn't realize I had broken through until the experience was repeated."



The exp is diff for everyone, I've read stories of going off into the universe, being a star, being an orb and following around entities, a whole world of entities partying lol

I've seen some evil elves with large metallic teeth staring at me, a black-grey alien with long fingers, little mini gnome ppl swirling on fractals :?: but never any of the other stuff, altho I've only ever smoked DMT maybe 8 times so far, my last exp was a true nightmare...

I plan on diving in this weekend, maybe after ingesting a gram or two of syrian rue.

 

[HyperJester]

I smoked it from a small glass pipe, I am layering it between "Greengo" which is a Tobacco replacement, made of eucalyptus and mint. So I place a small amount of Greengo first, then place the DMT on top of that, and a little more Greengo to cover the DMT, then light the Greengo and pull to burn it down and vaporise the DMT.
I am not over burning the DMT too hot, it burns nicely and is not as harsh. My eyes were closed during the 50mg - Open at the first taking the pulls, everything looked super crisp / vivid / sharp but vibrating like a hologram... then I closed my eyes and saw white light and Aztec like Fractal patterns moving quickly

You didn't fall through a tunnel and burst out in to a space? It seems everything I've heard suggests the initially patterns I am looking at so far, at some point will break apart and I'll fall through tunnels of light and burst in to a new space.

The point I am at now seems to be the in-between part where I am only seeing white light and fractal patterns

I am going to change my technique and try again on the weekend