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Ash said:
SWIM followed this very easy tek http://www.psychonaut.com/post-37988.html?f=36&start=0

Basically, SWIM did everything the tek said and after it was in the freezer for 7 hours it had crystalised white DMT crystals. SWIM then covered the lid with plastic wrap (bad idea?) and within minutes it all started to melt. SWIM woke up to it all melted away! Can anyone work out from the tek where it's going wrong? Please help!
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What melted? The plastic wrap or the dmt crystals? It is hard to understand from your post. And you mean redissolved or "actually" melted? Your wording makes me understand that the plastic wrap melted, because the dmt crystals would redissolve, not melt.

You also say that "SWIM woke up to it all melted away!" what on earth does that mean? If it was the dmt crystals that redissolved in the naphtha, then did you stick it back in the fridge? Or left it at room temperature?

Since we're neither inside SWIY's brain nor present when SWIY does whatever SWIY does I'd advise you to use better wording and more accurate descriptions or you'll get crap for answers (if any!)
 
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inf had a point, it was indeed a bit confusing. Now its much clearer :)

why covering so no oxygen get there? how will the crystals dry fully (remaining naphtha evaporate) if its covered?

your dmt wasnt lost, it must be there in that bottom liquid. Did you wait long enough in the freezer this second time? had you added more naphtha or just added the small liquid back in the freezer?
 
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Ash said:
It all melted away obviously refers to the DMT and whatever else was in the glass baking tray.. I doubt anyone else can't understand what I said without me needing to write loads of paragraphs.
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You want help so you'd better try a bit extra to make yourself clear. No really need to write loads of paragraphs. Just write clearly and concisely.

Ash said:
Just for you:

1: Tek steps followed perfectly.
2: The DMT crystals formed in the glass baking tray after 7 hours in a freezer.
3: After taking the tray out of the feezer, SWIM covered the top of the tray with plastic wrap so no oxygen would get there.
4: The tray was placed in a dark area for 10 hours.
5: SWIM took the plastic wrap off the tray and realised the crystals had melted, leaving nothing but a small amount of fluid in the botton of the tray.

I've realised now that the naphtha probably wasn't fully disolved away, so it may have melted the DMT. After re-freezing it, a few small crystals formed but about 80% less than after the first freeze.
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This is far far better, thanks. And it didn't take loads of paragraphs. SWIY took the tray out of the freezer and there were crystals. SWIY covered it and put it in a dark place. Since it was not in the freezer any more, the temperature of the naphtha was raised from freezing to room temperature. And the dmt crystals redissolved inside the naphtha.

The small amount of fluid is possibly water that got inside the tray while it was in teh freezer and still uncovered. If SWIY gets his tray back in the freezer crystals should appear again.

Hope this helps.
 
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which tek said this horrible misinformation that oxygen melts dmt?

5 hours is not enough. Leave it for 12-24 hours and all your dmt will be there again.

Its not that the 'naphtha didnt fully dissolve'. Its that remaining naphtha traces that were between the crystals warmed up and dissolved the dmt, as stated in the FAQ and as inf said.

I think maybe you dont understand what 'dissolving' means? What do you mean with your last sentence?

as for your edit question, if you read the FAQ question I posted, you'll have your answer :)
 
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a quick look tells me that tek is full if misinformation (this vinyl/plastic need and oxygen melt story, the unnecessary use of deionized water, saying at some point that shaking will ruin the dmt and then later saying to shake when mixing, which increases chance of emulsion, etc). I suggest you check the teks at the WIKI, they are much more trustable. Everybody was a beginner once, there's a lot of people (me included) which had no previous chemical knowledge but learned a lot just being in the nexus and reading. Once again, check the FAQ, there is an overview of extraction processes. Read that as well as the teks there linked, read all of them, thats your homework for the next days/weeks, and keep reading this forum, and you'll start understanding muuuuuuuuuuch more.

for the naphtha being removed from the dmt, thats why you are doing what is written in the FAQ. First you pour off the naphtha to remove the majority of it, then you turn it upside down with the lid on to let remaining naphtha drop off the crystals, then you scrape the crystals and put them on an open dish to finish drying (i.e. the small amount of remaining naphtha will evaporate off). This will be what you do to prevent naphtha in your crystals so that you can smoke them.

Just check a dictionary/google to understand what dissolving/dissolution means.
 
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Did you use 20g of bark or do you mean 200? If you used 20 as you state it might well be that your naphtha isn't saturated enough to freeze precip., if there was enough solvent to cover the bottom of a baking dish then I suspect your naphtha/dmt solution is too dilute. You could evap. it down a bit and re-freeze or evap it totally- that will tell you if there are goodies there- and then redisolve in a minimal amount of solvent. With such a small amount I'd suggest using a sealed jam jar or even one of those individual miniature jam pots for the freezer. With great bark and good technique, the most 20g will yield is 200mg, not a very large amount of powder. I've a suspicion your 'crystals' may have been ice, hence the quick melt.
Oh, and as for open solvents in the freezer, your family/housemates won't thank you for naphtha flavour ice-cream and peas:wink:
 
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You need more lye. STB works with a close to 1.1 lye/bark ratio. Add 20g NaOH to your bark solution and while still hot extract 2x with the minimal quantity of solvent you are able to seperate off. Preferably the solvent you have already used Make sure to vent your container frequently as you gently invert it over and over to mix. Put your combined 2 pulls (not much point in a third with 20g) in a sealed jar in the freezer and wait. If all is well-and it's properly saturated- the solvent will have become opaque within an hour.
 
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