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[Sykosis]

Strange things happen when you eat an A. Muscaria. Very strange things.

 

[Mr.Peabody]

Amanita Muscaria killing flies has never been officially documented. There is no way that fly paper is made from this mushroom, at least not as a poison. Fly paper is sticky and so flies get stuck to it. Actually, at least one compound in A Muscaria actually attracts insects. So, maybe fly paper has this compound. Plenty of things kill bugs that don't kill people (organic pesticides). That doesn't mean one way or the other that it would be bad for people.

I am looking forward to hunting some of these beauties down this fall! I have researched them quite a bit, and feel good about trying them. One thing I am really interested in is low dose application. It can be used daily as a way to sharpen the mind and fight off coldness, and my house is very cold in the winter since I'm pretty po'. Also, it is supposedly good for fighting the winter time blues, which I am prone to at my latitude.

My interest is also peaked by this:

At higher doses, it can be like some kind of crazy warp-speed Fungus/LSD/DXM/5-MeO-DMT combo.
Just absolutely balls to the wall.
Among the greatest of all teacher-plants.

Sounds like jolly good fun!

 

[Sykosis]

Amanita Muscaria killing flies has never been officially documented. There is no way that fly paper is made from this mushroom, at least not as a poison. Fly paper is sticky and so flies get stuck to it. Actually, at least one compound in A Muscaria actually attracts insects. So, maybe fly paper has this compound. Plenty of things kill bugs that don't kill people (organic pesticides). That doesn't mean one way or the other that it would be bad for people.

I am looking forward to hunting some of these beauties down this fall! I have researched them quite a bit, and feel good about trying them. One thing I am really interested in is low dose application. It can be used daily as a way to sharpen the mind and fight off coldness, and my house is very cold in the winter since I'm pretty po'. Also, it is supposedly good for fighting the winter time blues, which I am prone to at my latitude.

My interest is also peaked by this:

At higher doses, it can be like some kind of crazy warp-speed Fungus/LSD/DXM/5-MeO-DMT combo.
Just absolutely balls to the wall.
Among the greatest of all teacher-plants.

Sounds like jolly good fun!

Plenty more things kill humans and not bugs though. Just because a pesticide is organic doesn`t mean you can ingest it with no detrimental health effects that means it`safer for the environment.

In two of the books which I own(Magic Mushrooms In Religion And Alchemy, Psychoactive Medicinal Plants: Hallucinogenic And Narcotic Drugs) it is clearly stated that yes A. muscaria was used as an ingredient in flypaper in Europe and Asia mostly Siberia up until around the turn of the century.

It was used by rural peoples as a vegetable flypaper and insecticide.

It gets it common name Fly Agaric due to it use in flypaper because when ingested by flies they become inebriated and die.

sure it might not be from some lab somewhere but might I ask where you get your information that they are safe from.

You can take plenty of poisonous and unhealthy substances and get a "balls to the wall" trip but is it safe no. Why would A. Muscaria be label as toxic according to the FDA but psilocybin, psilocin, DMT, THC basically every other narcotic is not. If they did it to stop people from eating them why wouldn't they classify the rest as toxins.
Additionally most people believe that A. muscaria is so safe because it is widely thought to be the mythical drink "Soma" but this has never been proven or disproven, I will give you that. I find most people here believe what they have been told to believe. Do some more research, buy some books far be it for me to ruin your good times. I know someone else will chime in saying "Bull, my friend has done them lots of times and loved them." Yes people do use them with success but blue DMT still gets you high right? And it won`t kill you either. Yet everyone on here will tell you NEVER smoke it why, because it`s unhealthy.

Also look up the symptoms of a mushroom poisoning all seem very similar to what many describe as an A. muscaria trip. some are also indicative of a psilocybe mushroom trip but less so. And for all those wondering yes I`VE eaten A. muscaria a few times before myself, and even enjoyed it but would never do it again.

 

[Eliyahu]

Wait... what's blue DMT?

 

[Sykosis]

Wait... what's blue DMT?

I assume your joking by your number of posts but will answer your question.
Blue/Green DMT is caused by from what I can tell( still new to DMT, not shrooms) 2 things.
1) a colorant they put in the solvent( naphtha) to perminatly stain the gas tank on a vehicle to show if inadequate fuels have been used.
2) If your solvent had contained any rust inhibitors that would dye your final product.

Both not good, hope it helps.

 

[Sky Motion]

Wait... what's blue DMT?

I assume your joking by your number of posts but will answer your question.
Blue/Green DMT is caused by from what I can tell( still new to DMT, not shrooms) 2 things.
1) a colorant they put in the solvent( naphtha) to perminatly stain the gas tank on a vehicle to show if inadequate fuels have been used.
2) If your solvent had contained any rust inhibitors that would dye your final product.

Both not good, hope it helps.

Lmao it seems like you would be the one joking, Eliyahu knows his sh*t..I've never seen blue green DMT...if you end up with that you messed up BAD.

 

[SnozzleBerry]

Wait... what's blue DMT?

I assume your joking by your number of posts but will answer your question.
Blue/Green DMT is caused by from what I can tell( still new to DMT, not shrooms) 2 things.
1) a colorant they put in the solvent( naphtha) to perminatly stain the gas tank on a vehicle to show if inadequate fuels have been used.
2) If your solvent had contained any rust inhibitors that would dye your final product.

Both not good, hope it helps.

Lmao it seems like you would be the one joking, Eliyahu knows his sh*t..I've never seen blue green DMT...if you end up with that you messed up BAD.

Ok...let's chill out and take a deep breath. Of all of the potentially divisive topics on the Nexus, imo, this is pretty low on the list, if it even qualifies.

If you wind up with blue DMT, it is most likely as a result of some sort of additive to your solvent.

Who cares about post counts? Seriously, what do they really mean anyway, aside from the fact that a person has pressed "Post" x number of times?

 

[Sykosis]

Wait... what's blue DMT?

I assume your joking by your number of posts but will answer your question.
Blue/Green DMT is caused by from what I can tell( still new to DMT, not shrooms) 2 things.
1) a colorant they put in the solvent( naphtha) to perminatly stain the gas tank on a vehicle to show if inadequate fuels have been used.
2) If your solvent had contained any rust inhibitors that would dye your final product.

Both not good, hope it helps.

Lmao it seems like you would be the one joking, Eliyahu knows his sh*t..I've never seen blue green DMT...if you end up with that you messed up BAD.

LMAO I know he knows his *facts* hence the start of my post...
Just because YOU haven't seen something doesn't mean it doesn't exist. You haven't seen me and I most certainly exist...
IMPORTANT: spice color purity fallacy AKA is your dmt ok to smoke ? - DMT Discussion - Welcome to the DMT-Nexus posted by another Nexus member who definitely knows his *facts*

And as I said it is BAD...

Really I don't see the point in your post.

 

[jamie]

Who cares, actaully?

 

[Mr.Peabody]

You have some good points Sykosis, but my question is this.
When there is conflicting literature, which do you decide? I have read numerous times that no confirmed deaths have been attributed to A. Muscaria. Any deaths supposedly related to them are far more likely to be due to misidentification.

I am sure as hell not going to place any trust in what bid brother guvment says. Toxin or not, I don't trust it. Scientific studies, yes, I'll trust if I find some.

Your argument that "psilocybes get you high, why try Amanita?" is not valid. I enjoy cactus (mescaline), dmt, psilocybe mushrooms, marijuana, and lsd. I like all of these, they are all similar in some ways, but offer different things. Many people have had good experiences using A. Muscaria, so I am curious. Yes, there is a risk, but there is a risk with everything. Do you eat the same food every day? You could, but would not enjoy it. I don't trip the same way every time.

Is it better to be safe, than sorry? To take the more conservative rout? Who knows! But there's no denying that there is validity to something people have used safely for thousands of years.

Then again, there are no confirmed deaths attributed to wolves, but that sure as hell doesn't mean I'll be hanging out with any, all willy nilly like!

 

[Eliyahu]

I was only curios as I had never heard of it before. I'm still a complete newbie at DMT extractions so I had just never yet read of or seen such a thing as blue DMT.

I assumed blue DMT was just DMT that had been extracted by Papa Smurf

So snozz is basically correct .....I am little more than a post hitting fool.

-Peace

 

[jamie]

please show some proof that muscimol is toxic in the doses of properply prepared amanitas that we are talking about or take this crap somewhere else. People have made these claims for far too long based on false claims of the mushroom being deadly in books etc just because other amanitas are..and because ibotenic acid has some toxicity.

 

[Sykosis]

WOW, Jamie quite hostile posts from a mod and senior member of this site, with post like

Who cares, actually

about others opinions. When clearly you care hence your continued post.

I thought this was a place where differences in opinion were welcomed or at least that's what the attitude section says, my mistake.
And your last aggressively worded post was again quite informative towards the topic at hand seems more argumentative to me.

You also seem quite ornery towards my stance and opinion in this matter and almost intent on belittling and badgering me based on it which last i checked is prejudiced. If you took the time out of your day to read the entire thread you'd find the information on muscimol you seek. Whos to say what a "proper" dose of A. Muscaria is when every shroom within a single flush will have different potencies and on the fact eveyones tollerance is different, could be one cap could be a thousand.
Show me some lab studies they are safe. Sure they were used for centeries but as stated that means nothing to the validity of their safeness. We have, still and forever will do stupid and unsafe things, it's called "recklessness" and it's in our nature.
Whenever you feel you can intelligently convey your opinion in a non hostile maner as I was told I must do by SnozzleBerry in this very thread, I'll listen.

And I had no intention of turning this in to a pissing contest...

 

[Eliyahu]

I personally don't believe there is enough hard data out there to draw any solid conclusions about the toxicity of A Muscaria outright. However based on many people's incredibly positive experiences with this substance...IMO that would be a strong indication that there is potential value to be had with this particular substance.

This is only my opinion but I personally believe that if used correctly A. Muscaria if used correctly can actually be good for you...that's right possibly even HEALTHY.

But if people are too afraid to try it based on speculation that it might be dangerous then we won't ever know.

I personally have ingested amanita over 50 times and I believe my liver is just about as good as it was the day I drove it out of the showroom....way back in the 70's :d

 

[Crazyhorse]

I don't know about all that but based on Eli's testimony I got curious and ordered some online to test it out myself sometime. So I guess we'll see! :thumb_up:

 

[Eliyahu]

I don't know about all that but based on Eli's testimony I got curious and ordered some online to test it out myself sometime. So I guess we'll see! :thumb_up:

Good to hear :d

...do you happen to know what area of the world they were picked from?

 

[Crazyhorse]

It's a mix that says it could contain ones from washingtion, siberia, or africa. So no I've got no idea.

Not planning on trying it anytime soon but eventually I'll probably want to hit you up for dosage advice.

 

[Eliyahu]

A mix sounds promising, mine are from the rocky mountains and a dosage for me is about 1/8th-1/4 of a gram. I know potency varies a lot though. I believe they will need to be heated somehow unless they are indicated as having been sun dried.

Feel free to hit me up and definitely let me know how it goes.

 

[Crazyhorse]

I got a "low grade" mix partly because it said they might get more sun during drying, the higher grades are kept in the shade since they seem to think that's better. Once they're dry can they still be put in the sun to get more muscizone?

 

[Sykosis]

It's a mix that says it could contain ones from washingtion, siberia, or africa. So no I've got no idea.

Not planning on trying it anytime soon but eventually I'll probably want to hit you up for dosage advice.

Sounds good Crazy, also you could if you don't mind sucking down a sloppy mushy shroom, soak them in warm water for 2-3 minutes so to leech out any water soluble toxins if any don't leave them in too long though.
I'm not here to terrify people I'm just stating my side of the fence with my experience and what I believe. Of course try them see what you think do your own digging make your own oponion. Don't let what I said weight on your head use it to research for your own conclusion. I wish you the best on your A. Muscaria exploration and hope to read the results, one day.