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Mecme

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So the first few tries technique was all off and produce nothing more than a buzz because I think most of the spice was burned. After a ton of reading 40 mg was loaded up and believed to be vaporized almost perfectly with nothing left over but a little bit of residue... Fairly immediate effects were felt but nothing on the level at which people described. There was an intense rush and a flushness followed by a pleasant body Buzz and then a feeling of melting into the bed. Open eye visuals were like what you get on LSD, wavy breathing walls, some Trails, faint colors, nothing extreme, eyes closed there were definitely some colors and for a Split Second a few circular color black hole looking things that were really far away and small if that makes sense but no geometric patterns or shapes or anything like that. The whole thing lasted a few minutes I'm not sure exactly how long but the tryptamine feeling lasted for a while longer afterwards. One thing that what's interesting was that this was mostly body load and slight visuals, there was not really any alteration of thought process or that introspective type of thing that's normally associated with things like lsd or mushrooms. There was complete control over thoughts and actions which wasn't expected due to everything I've read. The other interesting thing is that in the days that 2 Days Later there's notable change and stress levels and general feeling of Calm I don't know if this is coincidence or not ?
 
Hi there fellow psychonaut. I myself just started this journey. I administer measured 0.030 via gvg. Did three times with a week break in between each... first two were similar to what you describe the third was much stronger (no breakthrough however). Since the dose was constant each time I have to deduce that it is vaping technique that is lacking, however I feel I am on the right track. My advise - keep perfecting your vaping technique and definitely do not go above 0.040
 
I suggest trying harmala extract or moclobemide 30min before dmt.
However, smoking is highly ineffective. If you manage plugging (and you have powder dmt), you will get MUCH more out of it. 100mg harmala or 150mg moclobemide and 60-80mg freebase dmt dissolved in 1ml vinegar and 1ml of water is enough for one hour (very likely break-through) ride with one more hour after effects.
 
Changa in the bong never fails...there are many people who have reactions like this of varying degrees, there probably is no typical reaction. I think some people want a particular
experience so much that they cause it to happen! :d
 
I've been reading up on changa and enhanced leaf.. is the preferred method using ipa or doing the warm water bath ? Was thinking I would like to try one with passion flower and one with spearmint or something similar ?
 
I did my first 40mg hit with a GVG about a week ago. It followed (by about 20 minutes) a 33 mg hit with a Yocan XL vape pen. The vape pen was nothing compared to the GVG but even that was WAY beyond what you describe.

I did not break through because I am unsure if I broke through. I have learned that much...

I did finish the hit too, in one hit. It took a moment for the pipe vapor to thicken but it did and WOW, just as I was thinking HOLY S... I CAN"T FINISH THIS, I noticed the vapor thinning and got the strength to keep sucking in the hit until I fell back and quicker than ever I was in the zone. I released and saw a small vape cloud exit my mouth and reality changed instantly into the common geometric world that I commonly see except that it was WAY more intense and it grew to the point that it surrounded me until it enclosed my vision, space between me and the shapes didn't exist, the geometric shapes became almost like interconnected gears and as I turned my head from left to right they closed in around my vision and I "heard someone" say "look, he thinks turning his head will get him out of it" and I stopped turning my head. After some time the "world" opened back up to me and I giggled and kept saying wow while questioning what really happened. My spine between my shoulder blades was sore for two days telling me I must have really thrashed my neck around.

The after visuals were amazing and I was not quite in touch with reality for 30 minutes or so. I got up, could barely move my legs, sat back down, etc.

I will be doing a new extraction soon and want to try CHANGA. I somewhat fear sourcing an MAOI plant on the web and am not 100% sure which one to get. Soon... Peace
 
ridnovir said:
Hi there fellow psychonaut. I myself just started this journey. I administer measured 0.30 via gvg. Did three times with a week breack in between each... first two were similar to what you describe the third was much stronger (no breakthrough however). Since the dose was constant each time I have to deduce that it is vaping technique that is lacking, however I feel I am on the right track. My advise - keep perfecting your vaping technique and definitely do not go above 0.40

You are missing a Zero ridnovir. 30mg is .030 etc. .30 is 300 mg just to clarify.
 
Simply_Me said:
ridnovir said:
Hi there fellow psychonaut. I myself just started this journey. I administer measured 0.30 via gvg. Did three times with a week break in between each... first two were similar to what you describe the third was much stronger (no breakthrough however). Since the dose was constant each time I have to deduce that it is vaping technique that is lacking, however I feel I am on the right track. My advise - keep perfecting your vaping technique and definitely do not go above 0.40

You are missing a Zero ridnovir. 30mg is .030 etc. .30 is 300 mg just to clarify.

Indeed I do, thanks for the correction.
 
Mecme said:
I've been reading up on changa and enhanced leaf.. is the preferred method using ipa or doing the warm water bath ? Was thinking I would like to try one with passion flower and one with spearmint or something similar ?

Nah use acetone. evaps hella quick. also can clean your longboard bearings.
 
Simply_Me said:
MenacingTrees, your name is why I don't use DMT outside anymore :oops:

Haha I LOVE TREES.

As far as your MAOI fear, just do enhanced Leaf! A lot of the benefits of changa with none of the precautions of maoi's and mixing, plus its a more exact pure DMT experience.
 
Swim had some time today and decided to give it another shot. This time he used a bong with a bowl full of ash with 40mg of spice on top and then some mint leaves on top of that. Swim got himself comfortable in bed and nicked the herbs with a bic lighter and started pulling. The first hot was mostly mint but the second was unmistakably spice and was a large hit that made swim choke. Swim felt it coming on fast and thought he was losing control of his arms and didn't get another hit in because he was afraid of dropping the glass off the bed and also got a little nervous. As soon as it started swim noticed his hearing become really clear and it sounded like wind was rushing passed him or something along those lines... Swim then closed his eyes and had geometric patterns rushing at him fast and non stop but it was over really quick. Swim thinks of he had taken that next hit his experience would have been epic but it is not an easy thing to do when it starts to come over you.
 
Just keep at it. My last attempt was last Friday and it resulted in the strongest effect yet. I was able to clear all 0.030 in one go from gvg...yay.. but I breathed out too soon I believe because I thought I was choking or was it a trick of my mind I do not know. I let out a huge plume of vapor after counting to 4. Nonetheless, it was enough to cause some serious effects. Came back and I had tear from one eye on my face and was like - "damn what the hell just happened."
 
Try some rue tea 30 minutes before vaping... [on fairly empty stomach]..next time you vape the visuals should get very vivid and colorfull!
 
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