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A few questions about Cebil Tea

AquaSpirit

AquaSpirit

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Hi, I've never tried Cebil or Yopo yet, but I would really like too, though, I'm really bad with chemistry so I don't plan on doing an extraction, and I really hate snorting anything so I think this ROA might just ruin the whole experience for me .

So I was looking for alternative ways to use those and I read some people have had some results orally and rectally .

I was planning to brew a few teas with lots of Lemon or vinegar and then drink some lemon juice and a strong Ginger infusion for nausea, does it seem like it could work ?

I also thought I could chew the seeds for like 30mn like Salvia quid and then eat or spit them ?

Is calcium hydroxyde really necessary or does It just make it more potent ?

Also, could I infuse enough material in a tiny amount of water so I could plug the liquid ?

Please tell me if any of those seem like reasonable ideas, is 2-3 seeds, maybe a redraw of 2 other seeds a good place to start without MAOI ?

And is enough ginger indeed good for nausea ? Thanks a lot for taking some time to read and answer my questions <3
 
Hi AquaSpirit,

I made a yopo snuff recently and while snorting was not that bad I prefer not to do that, so I've been thinking of trying other ROAs especially boofing, and hopefully i'll have some input soon.

I tried taking some sublingually with harmala freebase but I only got the undesired body effect and no trip at all.

I don't know about ingesting it but I suspect it will make the bodyload worse. even from snorting it I puked both times when I took more than 300 mg.
 
Haha, thanks for the advice I love that point of view ! For sure I can cook I just had to learn but nothing that hard .

Though I don't know yet anything about actually doing extractions other than alcoholic tinctures .
I'll be looking into it for sure, but this is quite an impressive world from the outside , and always fear to make a mistake and ruin it all or make something toxic .

But indeed changing framework about it is a good idea ! Pure Bufotenine 5-HO-DMT would be so much more convenient !
 
Fortunately, there are several bufotenine extraction methods here laid out in easy-to-follow steps. They all follow a similar premise: toast and grind the seeds, mix the powder with a base - pretty much always either sodium carbonate or lime (calcium hydroxide) - and a little water to form a paste. Let this dry out, then mix with a solvent to extract the bufotenine. The choice of solvent at this point goes on to affect the ways of getting the bufotenine back out of solution.

Easier than making a soufflé :D
 
There's a friend on the Nexus who has shared this with me

"The recipe is basically powdered yopo seeds and calcium hydroxide in a 50/50 ratio mixed with a little water. I used a batch of already powdered seeds myself, but if you're using whole seeds it's probably better to peel them first.
when the mixture dries, it gets realy hard. So then i crush it again.
I usually put something like a full teaspoon under my tongue, because apparently snorting it is extremely painfull.
The effects by themselves of such small quantities aren't super spectacular, because it's mostly visuals you get and something that feels a bit like a nicotine rush. But in conjunction with shrooms, acid or ayahuasca, it does get spectacular. If you want spectacular effects purely from yopo itself, it's best to smoke it, but it's pretty nauseating in higher quantities. That nicotine-like effect get's stronger and becomes a bit unpleasant, like nicotine itself.
It's super visual by itself, but the 5-MeO-DMT like effects i only felt when i was already experiencing the effects of another psychedelic.
Another thing is that you don't want to swallow it. It is said to induce projectile vomitting when you take it orally, and extreme nausea."

I have yet to try this myself, but intend to soon. But hope this helps.

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Voidmatrix said:
There's a friend on the Nexus who has shared this with me

"The recipe is basically powdered yopo seeds and calcium hydroxide in a 50/50 ratio mixed with a little water. I used a batch of already powdered seeds myself, but if you're using whole seeds it's probably better to peel them first.
when the mixture dries, it gets realy hard. So then i crush it again.
I usually put something like a full teaspoon under my tongue, because apparently snorting it is extremely painfull.
The effects by themselves of such small quantities aren't super spectacular, because it's mostly visuals you get and something that feels a bit like a nicotine rush. But in conjunction with shrooms, acid or ayahuasca, it does get spectacular. If you want spectacular effects purely from yopo itself, it's best to smoke it, but it's pretty nauseating in higher quantities. That nicotine-like effect get's stronger and becomes a bit unpleasant, like nicotine itself.
It's super visual by itself, but the 5-MeO-DMT like effects i only felt when i was already experiencing the effects of another psychedelic.
Another thing is that you don't want to swallow it. It is said to induce projectile vomitting when you take it orally, and extreme nausea."

I have yet to try this myself, but intend to soon. But hope this helps.

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There's every chance that crude seed preparations will contain other substances, and things with a nicotine-like effect are far from rare. It's likely that bufotenidine would have this action, as the trimethylated quaternary ammonium derivative of bufotenine, for example.

Of course, this may (also) be an unavoidable effect of bufotenine itself, except I've never seen this specific qualitative comparison used to describe the subjective effects of the isolated alkaloid before, and can't speak from personal experience (despite very well knowing what a nicotine overdose feels like).
 
I heard just toasting the seeds could already help get rid of some toxins , am I right ?

I've seen an interesting thread on reddit about a guy who successfully tripped off a 20 seeds tea .

Also, could I successfully infuse the seeds it in water, then reduce down to a few dozens of ML via boiling and plug it ?

I usually love plugging 5-MeO-DMT and DPT IDK if those can compare .
 
I was thinking about how to avoid snorting those seeds .

Would it be ok to toast them, infuse them in water and then boil until I only have a tiny enough amount to plug it ?

I'm afraid the constant heat might destroy the tryptamines .

Any advice greatly appreciated :) Also how would you dose it ? 2 to 5 seeds like insufflation?

Thanks ! <3
 
I would avoid using bufotenine orally until you have snuffed it and understand what it does to you physically. I would smoke it over snuffing it personally as well.

You can roast them. I always roasted them before making snuff or extracting.

It can be quite nauseating and painful at visionary doses.
 
Also, it cannot compare to 5-MeO-DMT. Maybe somewhere in the Amazon some guy has a 5meo strain but you don’t..no one online does. I dunno why this myth persists but it does.

Anadenanthera is just nothing at all like 5-MeO. Worlds apart. It’s just a bufotenine trip.
 
Jamie01 said:
It can be quite nauseating and painful at visionary doses.
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Yeah basically that's what I understood from *cross-sourcing* .

How does it compare to a strong dose of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds in terms of discomfort in medium doses ?
Could lots of Ginger and Lemon help ?
Cause I have quite a good experience with those LSA seeds , I know how intense the body load can get past 10 good quality seeds but I still love this drug because in the right setting in brings me into awesome trance states and I no longer really bother how I feel during most of the trip . The worst is usually the come up and come down not the trip itself I'd say , is it the same with Cebil ?

Actually I'm more planning on plugging a concentrated tea that doing it orally, but even Ketamine I can't snort, I really hate this route of administration and the drop coming with it and I feel it would ruin the whole experience for me .

Indeed I'm aware it will be nothing like 5-MeO-DMT or DMT, that's why I'm curious about it actually ^^"
 
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