A little bit of help needed..

[LeCook]

Hello all!

Im new here and I know SWIM has a few questions about extracting dmt from MHRB using the lazy man's tek.

SWIM used about 250g powdered MHRB, about 1300ml water, and around 200g lye. then 250ml-300ml of naptha

SWIM tried to be very very careful during the step where you separate the naptha from the basified mix(lye/water/MHRB). despite SWIM's best efforts, a couple small drops of the basified mix fell into glass baking dish where the dmt-containing-naptha was, and now there are two little droplets of basified mix sitting on the bottom of the pan.

so, my question is has SWIM ruined his product?
Is it dangerous to smoke the dmt after all the naptha has evaporated, perhaps it would be okay if SWIM didnt scrape up the section where the droplets are?

if it is dangerous then a wash is necessary correct? would that save it?

SWIM says that it will be okay to smoke, it will just be a lot harsher, which is fine, but is it dangerous?

-thanks everyone for looking and for your time, im sorry if there is already a post about this, ive been searching all night reading through a ton of threads looking for help.
thanks again!!

 

[alert]

after everything is dry recrystalize it. basically you heat a small amount of solvent and drop your DMT into it. all the insolubles will fall to the bottom of the container, decant away the clean solvent and freeze precip it or allow it evaporate. if you evaporate it you should ideally evaporate it one more time in iso or acetone to remove any hydrocarbons from the crystal structure

tl;dr - you don't want to smoke that

 

[LeCook]

tl;dr - you don't want to smoke that

i dont want to smoke it because it is dangerous? or will it just be ultra harsh and taste like poop?

and if its dangerous.. exactly how dangerous are we talking here..?

 

[alert]

Well, it isn't going to kill you if that is what you are asking. I have read that lye doesn't vaporize until you get to temperature much hotter than a normal flame. However, I still think it would be in your best interest to spend another 24 hour cleaning it up. Patience is most definitely a virtue. I will tell you that smoking lye contaminated product is going to be much less enjoyable than the alternative.

 

[LeCook]

Well, it isn't going to kill you if that is what you are asking. I have read that lye doesn't vaporize until you get to temperature much hotter than a normal flame. However, I still think it would be in your best interest to spend another 24 hour cleaning it up. Patience is most definitely a virtue. I will tell you that smoking lye contaminated product is going to be much less enjoyable than the alternative.

thanks for the help!
ill let SWIM know what i have learned from you and he will most likely sample the final product once it dries before he tries recrystallization

 

[LeCook]

Another question, SWIM's basified mix, the water, lye, and MHRB, how does he do a second pull with it? does he simply add more lye and/or water?

or does he have to strain it or..?

SWIM is just a little confused about this part.

thanks in advanced!

 

[alert]

Another question, SWIM's basified mix, the water, lye, and MHRB, how does he do a second pull with it? does he simply add more lye and/or water?

or does he have to strain it or..?

SWIM is just a little confused about this part.

thanks in advanced!

No need to add more lye or water at all. For the additional pulls you add more solvent (naphtha) and swish it around a bit so the DMT migrates from the h20/lye mix into the solvent.

 

[LeCook]

Another question, SWIM's basified mix, the water, lye, and MHRB, how does he do a second pull with it? does he simply add more lye and/or water?

or does he have to strain it or..?

SWIM is just a little confused about this part.

thanks in advanced!

No need to add more lye or water at all. For the additional pulls you add more solvent (naphtha) and swish it around a bit so the DMT migrates from the h20/lye mix into the solvent.

oh okay, thanks. so would i want to leave it sit more or stir it more for each consecutive pull?

 

[alert]

correct

 

[Dreamwalker]

Those droplets of basified mix that are on the bottom of the pan will most likely stick to it allowing you to pour the DMT laden naptha off it into another clean pan.


A re crystallization wouldn't hurt if you want it super clean but no, you didn't ruin anything.

Good luck!

 

[LeCook]

Those droplets of basified mix that are on the bottom of the pan will most likely stick to it allowing you to pour the DMT laden naptha off it into another clean pan.


A re crystallization wouldn't hurt if you want it super clean but no, you didn't ruin anything.

Good luck!

well, they have indeed stuck to the bottom of the pan in little drops and i had poured SOME of the naptha off into a second pan in an effort to speed up evaporation. so that second pan should be cool?

 

[Dreamwalker]

You should be fine.

It really wouldn't hurt to do a simple re xtal using naptha.

 

[LeCook]

ok thanks for your help guys, but SWIM has a couple more questions.

so the naptha appears to be all gone, but there is no solid crystals
instead theres like a almost syrupy layer, thats the only way i can describe it. its not flammable so it cant be naptha right? whats up with that?

and is there a way to make lye dissolve better? it appears that theres alot of it sitting at the bottom of the jug SWIM is using

 

[LeCook]

also, swim used about 250 g MHRB and has already done a pull from it. but swim also has another 250g of MHRB and wants to know if he should add this unused MHRB to the jug with the basified mix, or should he start with a new jug and a new batch?

thanks guys and gals

 

[ragabr]

Dissolve the lye in water *before* adding it to the bark. You're already using the lower end of how much lye to add, so I'm surprised you got any spice at all with the first pull.

If you try adding more bark, it will definitely not be enough lye, so you might as well start another batch this time. Also, dissolving lye creates a lot of heat, so if you're not constantly stirring until it completely dissolves, it will create stress points in your glass or plastic, compromising the vessel. If you're using glass, I would be safe and not use that one for anything again.

 

[LeCook]

Dissolve the lye in water *before* adding it to the bark. You're already using the lower end of how much lye to add, so I'm surprised you got any spice at all with the first pull.

the lower end? really? i thought you were supposed to use 250g lye for 500g MHRB, as outlined in the lazy man's tek

how much should i use then?


also where can i find a freeze precipitation tek that works with the lazy man's tek?

 

[ragabr]

That's what the tek says, but looking through the forum people have problems with the tek that are often solved just by adding more base. Also, all the other STB teks use 1:1 ratio for MHRB and lye.

Freeze precipitation is always the same with naphtha, just put it in the freezer.