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A question or three on Rue and other subjects

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Brother Bear

Brother Bear

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Hello friends :p i am finding it hard to get the information i need on Rue
thank you for your time in answering, or providing links :d

First off i do not want to get sick :)
i plan to start with a 1.5g dose of Rue, then work my way up
there is a special diet i think ?? things not to eat or things better to eat
can this be better explained to me please.
any tips at all will be groovy as i am planning to do this tomorrow evening if everything lines up correctly for a trip

I need a better scale, and cannot seem to find one good for measuring DMT
a link would be really useful here please :oops:
or even the model and # of the one YOU are using :lol:

oh since i do not have a scale... whats another cleaver method to gauge my DMT consumption
i am a bit worried to do to much with the Rue, but will that matter at such a low dose of Rue ?
can it be smoked, or is oral the best way with MAOI ?? (have never eaten either)

i think that covers it for now, sorry to bother
i have done a few searches and could not find these things, or did not write it down and now can no longer remember or find again where i found it first :shock:
again thank you for taking the time to read and answer
 
Hey Brother Bear,

re MOAI foods to avoid try
also check out the comments by 69Ron.

Harmaline's from my research have a half life in the bloodstream of ~3 hours, and as they are Reversible MAOI's are considerably safer than pharmaceutical MOAI's on the dietry restrictions [e.g. for tyramines].

re scales, go to ebay.
always best to be safe and accurate.

re extraction of Rue, go to the wiki,
there is Jorkest's method and also the herbal percolator method which seem to be well rated.

the ayahuasca forums also have some good info to sift through.
 
if you dont want to get bad stomach, smoking dmt is much better in this sense than oral dmt+maoi .. If you do decide to go for oral dmt+maoi, then drink strong fresh ginger tea before drinking/ingesting the rue and after the rue/before the dmt. 1,5g rue might not be enough MAOI for some people so the trip could possibly be short. But its anyways good to start low for the first time and work your way up to find ideal dose in other occasions. SWIM used to take 3,5g when making tea (boiling 3x for 10mins), but now preffers extracting and taking 200-300mg harmala alkaloids (purified by at least one or two re-runs of the manske salt precipitation step)

Research into extracting rue. It can be done food-safe using only vinegar, salt and sodium carbonate. Go to the subforum dedicated to harmalas and others here, or check this thread for example:

Definitely get a scale! One that measures 0.01g (10mg) is good enough. My wife gave me one, Ill see if I find the link. Dont ingest dmt orally without measuring first, as a too strong oral dmt trip can be terrifying for some people. Start with maybe 50mg dmt (though if its too weak, I would increase the MAOI dosage first, in your case.). Also dont ingest it as freebase, first dissolve it in some orange juice or coke or something

good luck and tell us how it went :)
 
Does syrian rue dosage only influences trip length, or is there a threshhold to be met?
If 200mg crude extract equals 4g of syrian rue and a 4 hour trip, would 20mg boil down 24 minutes of tripping? How would a really low dose of maoi influence smoked spice...if at all?
 
yes MAOI dosage definitely influences trip length.. I dont know if there's an exact mathematical proportion to trip length and dosage but in SWIM's experience he has noticed that taking less MAOI (like 1.5 - 2g rue) has made his trips last more like 1, 1:30 hours, while his ideal dose makes the trip last more like 3+ hours.


cant answer about the low MAOI dose with smoked dmt because SWIM hasnt tried it yet but it could be very interesting, gotta try it sometime. My guess is it would slightly increase both the duration and strenght. Also depends what kind of MAOIs.. Ive heard people mentioning THH + smoked dmt is a better combination than harmine/harmaline + smoked dmt, but its also something SWIM hasnt had personal experience with yet.
 
I noticed nobody had posted a link to buy scales so here you are:
I don't know where you are living so I posted UK and US, if you live somewhere else just type: "scales 0.01" into your ebay and you will find a seller.

UK Scales
US Scales

Hope this Helped. :d
 
It might be worth noting that generally people prefer an MAOI other than Rue. Maybe I misunderstand what I'm reading, but that's what I've taken so far from general MAOI threads including oral DMT.
 
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