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Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

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Hey guys. I havnt been able to purchase a field guide as recommended by another member, although today I came across a flowering acacia that looks to be obtusifolia as it flowers between nov-dec in NSW and im just north of sydney.

What do you all think about this? Comments appreciated :)

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Yep, that's it. 100%

notice the blunt tips which are slightly serated. (obtusifolia is also called "Blunt Tip wattle")

The big spaces in between phyllodes.

The stiffness and thickness of the phyllodes.

The obvious anastomisation. (nerve network which in which the nerves meet each other)

Looks like someone has been doing some pruning?

If you can get away with it, this is the best way to approach harvesting from this tree. Taking bark from the trunk will often kill the tree :-(

Whereabout did you find this tree?

Also, try collecting a few hundred grams of flowers and doing some extractions on them and let us know how you go! They should be active and have a really nice quality to them!
 
Can we please not disclose the whereabouts of this tree on a public forum.

The last thing we need is publicly available instructions on localities near major urban centers. Good way to damage the cause.
 
Saw these around, I believe they are acacia maidenii but am not quite sure..

Can anybody confirm for me please?

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..yeah, that's a pretty good bet for A. maidenii..there are a few other QLD species which look similar (& are worth investigating for tryptamines)..

to definitively ID, A. maidenii has very coiled/spiral/twisted seed pods..

the feature that means this could be another species is the length of the flowers, A. maidenii spikes averaging 4-6cm..
 
..i've just started looking into South American acacias, will hopefully know more soon..

the plant is either an acacia, mimosa or calliandra
..a Sth. American acacia not unlike it is Acacia aroma, but it's flowers are smaller..
definately an interesting legume, will get back to you yatiqiri...
 
yatiqiri said:
can anyone tell me if this is an acacia?
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mimosa scabrella maybe??

was once given some flowers from a south american mimosa, possibly aroma from memory makes a good changa blend i am told with slight entheogenic effects on its own

got any photos of the seeds?

came across this article
Two new species of Mimosa (Fabaceae) endemic to Bolivia
might of interest
 
more picture of the same plant.

I forgot the picture but the seeds are black, round, very hard, and about 5mm diameter
 

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yatiqiri, i think your photos are of a Mimosa (& i suspect identification of mimosas & acacias in South America is not complete)..a full description of the infloresence of the 2 new Bolivian spp. may help (hope to read full paper soon)..
..also, some botanists would argue that mimosa could be grouped in acacia (they are very close)...

sinful_speed..what rough area/country is the tree from?
could be A. concurrens (or related), A. julifera, or a form of A. maidenii..
pictures of the seed pods would help narrow it down...
 
Hi nen888,
this tree was found in the urban streets of Makati, Metro Manila Philippines. They are scattered around the metro as well as A. Confusa and many species of Acacia. I have suspicions that this may be A. Maidenii based on information from the Erowid database. It's been raining hard here for about 4 months now. No seed pods are available, but I will post them as soon as I find some.

Are there any other possible indicators that can identify this species?

=)
 
..hey, great to get some Phillipines acacia interaction :)

..the plant is in the acacia subsection Juliflorae, in which the majority of DMT containing spp. in aus to date have been found (although many are turning up in other sections now)..
..other than glands near the leaf base of some species, seed pods (+ microscopic detail of flower) are the main identifying indicators,
twisted/spiral pods (usually 1-3 months after flowering) would indicate A. maidenii...
 
I doubt that's an Acacia. Maybe a Sophora?

By the way, I made a mistake with the African Acacias studied in that paper - 3 of them were positive, not 2 (polyacantha ssp. camplyacantha, nubica, and senegal). In Some Simple Tryptamines, Trout was being charitable when he said it's easy to get confused by this paper, when referring to people's listings of species falsely attributed to this. I would say, it's only a two-page paper, and if you read it, the results are very clearly given in plain English.
By the way, the listing for oerfota which I was unsure about has become clear - it's a synonym of Acacia nubica, so it is a genuine listing as far as DMT goes. In my own notes I had it down as orfota, thanks to numerous sources spelling it incorrectly, and me failing to check it until now.
 
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