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Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

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Sandman it looks to me as if you have acacia longifolia and perhaps maidenii however I'd need a closer photos of the phyllodes. When getting photos it helps to have the veins in focus in some shots. Also note if the plant has a basal gland (little dot near where the phyllode joins to the stem) as this can be a factor that greatly helps id. Longifolia and maidenii can have dmt present but only with the right strain and there is a fair bit of talk on the net on how acacias aren't generally as potent or active at all when flowering. Keep in mind I'm not confident with my IDing just yet so hopefully someone can give a second opinion.
 
^Yep looks like a.maidenii to me but cant tell for sure. Which state?

therunner post 705 looks like a varient of a.retinodes..
Post 708 not acacia but lovely plants anyway.
 
These trees are located on the northern beaches of sydney! I will go back and get some phyllode pics in the next few days.. thanks!
 
Hello everyone. I was exploring my local park a couple months ago when I found a colony of these acacia trees growing. I've since found more all over this park. I don't think they're native, the park is over 150 years old so who knows how long they've been there. There's also a botanical garden nearby which they could have escaped from.
 

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Sadly I found them just after they flowered. They're leaves look remarkably like desmanthus. There's a limitless colony of foot tall ones that get mowed over with grass, the first time I saw them I though they were bundleflowers, till I saw the thorns.

Here's a close up of the leaves, thorns
 

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TheAwakening said:
Sandman it looks to me as if you have acacia longifolia and perhaps maidenii however I'd need a closer photos of the phyllodes. When getting photos it helps to have the veins in focus in some shots. Also note if the plant has a basal gland (little dot near where the phyllode joins to the stem) as this can be a factor that greatly helps id. Longifolia and maidenii can have dmt present but only with the right strain and there is a fair bit of talk on the net on how acacias aren't generally as potent or active at all when flowering. Keep in mind I'm not confident with my IDing just yet so hopefully someone can give a second opinion.
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I would of thought longifolia var. sophorae
 
Hello everyone! So went back to my special acacia spot and got some more close-up photos of the trees. I hope there aren't to many photos..

Tree 1
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Tree 6 - This is an old tree which some broken branches etc as you will see..
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Tree 7 - The oldest tree I found, and the one which gave me an intuitive feeling that it had something to be extracted
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Big branch that has fallen off.. definately from the same tree as the break points fit into each other
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Tree 8 - very young just looking to get an ID :D
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So thats it.. thanks a tonne for taking the time to give them an ID.. as i said before tree 7 is the oldest tree and gave me an intuitive feeling like it was kind of ready to move on and pass on it's knowledge through DMT.. this could be BS that I have created in my mind, but who knows with this DMT Shiiiitttt lol
 
Excellent.. So tree 7 looks active? would I be able to use the whole branch that fell off or bark only? And yeah out of all the trees on that walk the Acacias are definitely the most visually stunning
 
sandman203 said:
Excellent.. So tree 7 looks active? would I be able to use the whole branch that fell off or bark only?...
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My understanding is that branch bark would be fine to work with, and so would phyllodes...

Cosmic Spore said:
nen888 said:
... STB extraction is not suited IMO to Acacia species..although there are some examples around if you search...
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Acacia Extraction Workspace search it for the following terms:

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the 'nen-method':
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While I haven't done that myself, nen888 is among the most knowledgeable-of-Acacia members here.
 
sandman203 said:
Excellent.. So tree 7 looks active? would I be able to use the whole branch that fell off or bark only? And yeah out of all the trees on that walk the Acacias are definitely the most visually stunning
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Well they all display characteristics of active types to me, particularly the leathery phyllodes and the anastomising veins. Number 2 struck me most intuitively. Were they all growing close together? They could be a complex or a small group of hybrids. Did they feel particularly special?
However whether they are or not is a different matter and could be about timing or fate.
During flowering is generally not considered a good time for harvesting during seeding has seen to have a good result. Maybe developed as an incentive for us to spread the seeds? :D Like nectar for bees.
 
DreaMTripper said:
Well they all display characteristics of active types to me, particularly the leathery phyllodes and the anastomising veins. Number 2 struck me most intuitively. Were they all growing close together? They could be a complex or a small group of hybrids. Did they feel particularly special?
However whether they are or not is a different matter and could be about timing or fate.
During flowering is generally not considered a good time for harvesting during seeding has seen to have a good result. Maybe developed as an incentive for us to spread the seeds? :D Like nectar for bees.
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Ok cool, well I was looking to do a bark extraction rather than a phyllode extraction on tree 7 just because it looked like an old tree who's time had passed etc.. I definately did get an intuitive feeling from this tree aswell. The trees are located on a trail and theres heaps of them essentially.. the whole walk feels pretty powerful to be honest and the acacias really stand out as something special.. and yeah I won't be extracting for another few months until I do more research on the process and have the spare time, but it's good to know that the tree is there and waiting for me when I'm ready to go!!

Also when do acacia's seed?? Thanks
 
No offence but in this context its not really up to us to decide when a tree has had its day.
I see no reason to use bark other than to adhere to the status quo, which is not a good reason as these are wild trees not cultivated on a plantation for commercial ethnobotanical purposes. Let nature decide when its time is up.

That tree could be providing information to all the other trees nearby and could be very important to the local population in maintaining the local ecology not to mention the animals and insects that live off it.

Or did you mean BRANCH bark? If so prune concicely and cleanly with sterilised seceters.
I just noticed you said you found a broken off branch from number 7 that gave you the best feeling, thats ideal! It could be meant for you.

Acacia longifolia types seed not long after
flowering.
 
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