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Botany Acacia and Mimosa Identification Thread

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..Simply_Me..

That does not look like an acacia to me.

..Venternator..

..Regarding post #1228..

That to me looks like an A.Longifolia

..Regarding post #1229..

Seeing these amazing species cut down is painful... The species in image 6 is a very immature A.Obtusifolia (Blunt leaf wattle), images 28 and 29 MAY be an A.Maidenii, however, these are identifications based loosely on limited information. I urge you to challenge my identifications. There is a vast ocean of information about wattles available on the internet and in our humble forums. Look for an identification guide and do the field work to identify them. I hope this helps.
 
Heyo everyone,first time posting here and just wanted to say this is an awesome community and I'm happy to be apart of it, But I didn't come to this thread in particular to milk spiders,can anyone help me out to identify this type of acacia please? i took these shots in the darling downs Queensland,I know there I should've taken more pictures but these are all I got. I have tried to identify but I'm just really stumped for it. Thanks for your time.
 
It is not Mimosa hostilis.
Despite often being called Mimosa it is not in the genus Mimosa.
It's Albizia julibrissin f. alba otherwise known as Silk Tree.
 
I am very happy although slightly reserved because I am so new to this. I found this today and am hopeful
 

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M. tenuiflora regular and inermis, side by side.
 

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..Simply_Me..

That may be an A.Angustissima, however, I am not entirely satisfied giving that identification. I suppose A.Angustissima would be a good start point for your own identification.
 
Lupis Arante said:
..Simply_Me..

That may be an A.Angustissima, however, I am not entirely satisfied giving that identification. I suppose A.Angustissima would be a good start point for your own identification.


Thank you very much, That looks like you may be right. These species are so similar to the untrained EYE.

a sample extraction of some bark seems useless? Digging for root bark would be difficult here.
 
..Simply_Me..

Harvesting some small twigs and phyllodes with the trees health in mind might reward you, however, I strongly advise against harvesting root bark. From what I have read, A.Angustissima gives small yields, although, that is based on very little evidence. More ETHICAL research is required! :d

..hitmeup840..

I can't really attempt an identification with such little information. If you can get pictures of any flowers, seed pods, and generally, the tree, I can give it a go!
 
Hi

Could somone please help me with identifying this species of Acacia and whether it is active or not? I'm thinking it might be Acacia Retinodes?

This is located in South Australia and is quite common from what I have seen. These photos were taken at various stages of flowering.

Thanks
 

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..Sigtyr..

I agree with your identification of A.Retinodes. Pictures of any seed pods would help confirm said identification. Regarding its alkaloid profile, very little information exists around A.Retinodes. Information here (specifically post 97) suggests tryptamine content of 0.02% or below. If you have the resources, attempting an extraction on phyllode and twig material may give yields. If it doesn't, at least you are aiding research into this unique specimen. I hope this helps!
 
Lupis Arante said:
..Sigtyr..

I agree with your identification of A.Retinodes. Pictures of any seed pods would help confirm said identification. Regarding its alkaloid profile, very little information exists around A.Retinodes. Information here (specifically post 97) suggests tryptamine content of 0.02% or below. If you have the resources, attempting an extraction on phyllode and twig material may give yields. If it doesn't, at least you are aiding research into this unique specimen. I hope this helps!

Thanks for the confirmation. I looked for seed pods at the time of the pictures being taken but there were none about or on the ground amongst the dead phyllodes that I could see, though I will take another look next time I'm in the area.

I do recall seeing some on that particular tree last year and from memory, they looked very similar to pictures of A.Retinodes seed pods that I have seen online.

I'm about to attempt an extraction on another species shortly, however, I'll be more than happy to experiment with A.Retinodes down the track and share my results.
 
Lupis Arante said:
..Sigtyr..

I agree with your identification of A.Retinodes. Pictures of any seed pods would help confirm said identification. Regarding its alkaloid profile, very little information exists around A.Retinodes. Information here (specifically post 97) suggests tryptamine content of 0.02% or below. If you have the resources, attempting an extraction on phyllode and twig material may give yields. If it doesn't, at least you are aiding research into this unique specimen. I hope this helps!

Yesterday I managed to get a couple of photos of some young seed pods that are on this tree.
 

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Evening ladies and gentlemen.

Would a knowledgeable eye mind casting it over these few photos and confirming what these are if possible please!
 

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A relevant reminder from the FAQ for people posting in this thread, please read it all!


Does this plant contain DMT ? said:
1- First do an initial homework on what plants of interest grow in your area.

If it's a suspected Acacia, look up the Acacia Information Thread, see if you can find any info about your geographical area. If it's a suspected Mimosa, look at the Mimosa spp. workthread, if it's a suspected Phalaris read the Phalaris Analysis thread to find if there's any relevant info.

You can look up the information to know the plants that contain interesting alkaloids. For example the DMT Wiki (or 5-MeO-DMT wiki)


2- Do your own preliminary guesswork before asking others. What do you think is the plant you found? To get some idea on what it could be, check the information threads mentioned in point 1 above, and also you can use plant-identifying phone apps like PlantSnap or pl@ntnet to help trying to narrow down suspected ID's.


3- Take detailed pictures of the different plant parts (overall plant, leaf close up front and back, seedpods and flower close ups if they are there). Often to differentiate between species the details are important, so blurry bad quality pictures or single pictures with no close ups or details of different plant parts are not enough.

4- Post your ID request in the Acacia /Mimosa ID thread if it's a suspected Acacia or Mimosa, or make a new thread if it's a differen't plant. Be sure to say what plant you think it is, and include information such as general geographic area, the detailed pics above, and any possible differences you may have seen with the plant you think it is.

5- If your plant gets identified and you plan on harvesting, please only harvest sustainably! Check this post for more information

6- It is recommended that you do some sort of basic analysis to see if plant has the alkaloids of interest before consuming. Simplest method would be getting a reagent like Ehrlich, doing a simple ethanol soak on a small amount of your suspected plant material, and after evapping the ethanol you use a drop of ehrlich on the extract. If it turns purple, its a good indication there are related alkaloids, it is not a final identification but at least it's a good sign. One can also use TLC kits for more accurate identification of compounds, or go for a full lab test which is being offered for free for Nexians (as of sept 2018, check the thread for updates).
 
..Sigtyr..

Thank you for providing a lovely picture, as expected, my identification stands as A.Retinodes

..McSlurry87..

What country are these trees in? Are they native to that country? I am having a hard time coming to an identification on either of your presented trees.
 
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