acacia confusa every thing was fine and then...

[thoughtkrime]

I have a question
SWIM used A/B(vinegar/ Lye) tek on acacia confusa
simmer with a ph4 solution
strain and repeat twice
combine acidified solution from the different pulls

Basify with lye to ph 14
add naphta stir,
remove naptha
add back to distilled acidified water with a pH of 4 stirr

remove the acidifyed water now containing DMT acetate and possibly NMT acetate

Basify the water+dmt solution back to pH 14 using lye

add naphta

remove naphta

freeze precipitate



NOw the problem, i know right it all sounds awesome until you read this

and the end product is a fine white crystal that looks like is should, smells like it should and well...doesnt melt like it should. It can be lye chemistry wont let that happen. The odd part to me is that SWIM did a defat so really nothing should of been in the acidified water except DMT an perhaps a Little NMT, whats goin on?

 

[nyru40]

You'll need to be more descriptive, how do you mean, doesn't melt right? :?:

DMT as a general rule melts a little funny, running up the sides of glass, and you have to have your technique balance between too little heat and pyrolysis, but it's hard for me to tell if the issue is something else...

 

[thoughtkrime]

Well SWIM has done MHRB STB a few times and had great results. This is his first ACBark A/B. So the end product this time seems different in the way that it it doesn't seem to behave like the MHRB runs. Its white a and a fine powder never and big crystals except when in the first basic naptha pull they form like crazy in the bottom of the solvent and again once the defat. Then its a white powder after its in the freezer cold as it could be it loos like milk I got five grams from it now its clear. it smells like it and tastes like it and acts like it but it has an ash lfet behind. And that being the case would.that mean its not a crystal and then not dmt

 

[nyru40]

Hmm, I'd say a recrystallization is in order then. That ought to purify your crystals even more, and you could indulge yourself if you wanted, and evaporate more slowly for larger crystals.

It sounds as if it's largely DMT (hence the DMT appearance and smell), but there's some impurity, hence you finding something left behind after smoalking.

The consistency ought to be a little different, being the small amount of NMT also present, but this sounds like something else, being that something is being left behind.
What sort of residue is left?

 

[thoughtkrime]

well i gotta say SWIM has tried it all so this is what SWIM thinks went wrong. The acid wash to defat. Because when that step was removed things went fine.

So

Acid cook in pH4

Strain and repeat


Collect the liquid


Bring its pH to 14


add Naphtha


stir let sit


remove naphtha and freeze Precipitate


pure white spice.



add a Defat if you want but As bold as this seems SWIM feels as if A. its unnecessary B. will actually add impurities of a unknown variety C. Screws you over in the end. It will contain DMT but very little and wont have effects like normal, more like a feeling that ok yeah... got SOME but very little and need significantly higher doses then normal.

SWIM is no chemist and doesnt claim to be but he followed the tek Verbatim and every thing in every picture looked the exact same, even the end result and well that wasn't pure DMT.


So...(TEK-Defat stage)= DMT

(TEK with Defat)= Weird DMT BiProduct AKA some weird shit

 

[Metanoia]

I didn't defat and had similar results to what you're describing.

The only thing that you didn't mention was filtering and reducing the brew. I filtered every acid boil through cheese cloth and once I had all the boils reduced down to a manageable volume, I let it sit for 24 hours and then decanted the water and discarded the sludge on the bottom of the jar.

I'm not sure if that amount of filtering is required, but I did end up with a very decent yield. 4.71g from 227g. Could be the bark I have, or a combination of the bark and the way I performed the tek. More study is needed